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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:03 am 
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Good mornin', peace to you, dear Zoe... and thank you for that very interesting information! My husband's brother had his blood read and the results were interesting, as well!

Regarding how I know I'm a Jew, I am trusting what my Lord told me, that I was a Jew by blood. He told me this when he first explained to me about how the blood "speaks." He said that that is how he "found" me... because Abraham's blood IN me called out to him (when I called out to JAH and He send my Lord to me - they can tell that one is ALSO a seed of Abraham or not; not that such matters, because his Body is taken from people of EVERY nation, tribe, and tongue - they can tell whoever the "father" of such one truly is. So, just some irrelevant trivia.). He told me I was a "Jew" of part of the 2-tribe kingdom of Judah that is BenJahMin. What was once called a "yehudi" (although, he said I was "Jah'hu'dim").

I shared that on another site once and the outcry was just too funny. I am African American and so some were aghast that I would "try to claim to be a Jew". Shortly after, an article came out about African Jews. There a great deal of information out there, but here are some links about it:

http://wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Jews)
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2012 ... rican-jews

But it's gotten even better for me, actually, because I am learning that I am an Ethiopian Jew. Ethiopia is "Cush" ("the dark skin") and my Lord told me I am a Cushite(ess). Which makes me also an Assyrian (Assyria, Cush, and Ethiopia were all the same thing at different times, depending on who was ruling the lands). So, for ME, okay, he says so, so it must be so. And then, I'm on my way to Ethiopia. What in the world...?? Okay, he did tell me some while ago that I would be sent to my "own" people. But I had NO idea it was Ethiopia (Egypt, maybe - LOLOL!).

And then, while THERE, the indigenous people often mistook me FOR an Ethiopian. Even old ladies would come up to me and just start talking in Amharic! Huh?? When we first arrived in Addis Ababa the young lady who escorted us to our taxi asked me if I spoke "Amharic or Tigrinia?" When I said, "No, neither," she asked me if I spoke "Geez". I had to tell her (and a few other people) that, "I'm sorry, I'm American and I only speak English." When we were leaving Addis Ababa I tried to ask one Islamic young lady why there were SO many Islamic women in the airport (there were hundreds!! We found out they were domestic workers leaving for Yemen, Saudi Arabia, etc.). The look of utter shock on some of the women's faces when I did ask threw ME off - I thought I had offended some of them. I later learned from a Ethiopian young man (who now lives in Atlanta, GA) that they thought I was Ethiopian (as did he - he turned and asked me, "You're NOT Ethiopian??!") and so were taken aback when I spoke (apparently, some had never heard English before, let alone from the mouth of someone who looked like me! LOLOL!). And while in Axum, dear 'Mom said our guide told her that had I been alone, none of the children/disabled/elderly would have approached me for alms as they would have assumed me to be one of them!

I digress.

The orthodox Jewish community explains Ethiopian Jews to be the descendants of the lost 10-tribes (perhaps Dan) and so PROSELYTES and not literal Jews, but only accepted as such. So I asked about it... and what I heard was two things: first, that due to their own racism, this is all the orthodox community will allow for; they consider the darker skinned folks as "unclean" and so believing them to be of Israel and NOT Judah appeases them. They don't have to FULLY accept them and their ways. These links seem to show this to be true (sorry, but I can't seem to post JUST the link, without the media):

http://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseknutsen/2013/01/28/israel-foribly-injected-african-immigrant-women-with-birth-control/

http://www.timesofisrael.com/most-israe ... -a-cancer/

http://news.yahoo.com/israel-seeks-end- ... 50470.html

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali ... -years-eve

(NOTE: So for those who think modern Israel is "without blemish" REALLY need to become more INFORMED. Information is good. TRUTH(ful information) is better.)


Secondly, he said that not ALL who were exiled to Assyria (Ethiopia) were proselytes; some were also literal Jews, just as some from the 10-tribe kingdom of Israel were exiled in Babylon with the Jews (a sprinkling of each formed alliance with the other). I was reminded, then, that the Ethiopian eunuch was a Jew BY BLOOD... and not a proselyte... as most, including the WTBTS) erroneously teach. Indeed, when spirit was poured out at Pentecost, Jews from all OVER the region had come to Jerusalem... and the only ones deemed to be proselytes were those from Rome:

"Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. Utterly amazed, they asked: “Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language? Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!” Acts 2:5-11

Some also forget that:

1. The Queen of Sheba, who had a son (Menelik) with Solomon was an Ethiopian. And so, although Jews are deemed such by their MOTHER'S blood pursuant to custom and tradition, Abraham's blood would have been in Menelik... THROUGH Judah... because Solomon's mother (Bathsheba) and father (David) were both of Judah. Making Menelik a Jew by BLOOD, if not by custom/tradition; and

2. Esther, a Jew, became the beloved wife of Ahasuerus, the King of Ethiopia. So THEIR children would have been Jew, by custom AND blood... as well as Ethiopians. (Esther 2:1, 5, 7

The truth is that Ethiopia and Judah actually have quite a long history. Like Israel, Judah, and Egypt, Ethiopia also had an on again/off again relationship with JAH.

Now, do I know... by SCIENCE... that I am a Jew/Abraham's see by blood? No. I see no reason to be tested to "prove" it. My Lord has never lied to me; all he has told me he has proven at some point. So, for ME, to get tested just means I don't REALLY believe him but actually lack faith in what he told me. I have NO doubt, though, that just as going to Ethiopia recently proved to me when he said I would be sent to my own people, this too will be proven at some point.

And so that's how I know, dear Zoe (huge smile)!!

I hope this helps and, again, peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellama


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:31 pm 
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Very very interesting Shelby, and I have known for a long time that some black African people are Jewish. I guess I knew that because I read so many books. I am surprised that anyone in this day and age would doubt that a African American is a Jew.

As far as you being tested, I never thought you would do that, I thought people knew when they were Jewish just because of their family ancestry history being handed down from one generation to the next.

I think its awful how some of those Jews persecute black Jews....feeling I guess they are superior. The oppressed oppressing grrrrrr


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The oppressed oppressing grrrrrr


That is pretty common. Tends to be the way man works, to his own detriment. Instead of remembering what it is to BE oppressed, and making sure NOT to oppress others because of how it felt for them... some men go ahead and do the very same wrongs to others that was done to them. Some don't even see what they are doing. Being oppressed (or bullied) does have the negative impact for some in giving them the mindset of looking out for 'number one', as well... since no one else is going to do so.

But still.

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Very very interesting Shelby, and I have known for a long time that some black African people are Jewish. I guess I knew that because I read so many books. I am surprised that anyone in this day and age would doubt that a African American is a Jew.


(Smile) You'd be surprised what folks "in this day and age" don't know, dear, dear Zoe (peace to you, luv!). For example, what's in King Abdullah's essay (given was has been posted here about "who" is persecuting Israel). Sadly, I realize that many JWs/exJWs really have NO idea of what's going on in the world, what has and what is occurring right now. Most don't read/haven't read anything other than WTBTS publications... and, well, we all know how biased THOSE are. I am glad to hear that you're a reader. I don't know how anyone could be... and remain a JW. Sooner or later something has to give, there. Well, unless the only thing one reads is romance novels... or magazines like Auto Trader, Popular Mechanic, National Enquire, or InStyle/People, etc. LOLOLOL!

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As far as you being tested, I never thought you would do that, I thought people knew when they were Jewish just because of their family ancestry history being handed down from one generation to the next.


No worries, luv - I didn't take it that you thought that. I just posted the details I did for others who might also be curious (and skeptical - LOL!).

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I think its awful how some of those Jews persecute black Jews....feeling I guess they are superior. The oppressed oppressing grrrrrr


SO funny you say that... because isn't that REALLY the "sin" of Israel? They were being GREATLY oppressed in Egypt, JAH heard their cry and delivered them... and how did they "repay" Him? How did they treat their fellowman? That's why they were repeatedly delivered into the hand of their enemies, either in death or captivity. JAH still loved THEM, though, and would never let their enemies completely prevail over them. Sort of a, "Okay, I'm gonna let you folks teach my Israel a lesson, and when they learn it you must let 'em go. Even so, you can only 'teach' them so far - they are mine and I am the only one who can 'go there'."

Sadly, even to this day, Israel has not learned her lesson. Some have (reformed and others), but apparently not those who place ALL of their pride in their "Jewish" heritage (the orthodox, etc.). They're right now screaming and crying about how they're being persecuted... while they themselves are persecuting others. Hence, their "fruits" SHOW that they have NOT yet said, "BLESSED is he that comes in the name of JAH." Because if they HAD, they would be walking by the Law of that One. Which Law does not permit the persecution of others but calls for MERCY and forgiveness.

They are still profaning the fast of JAH in how they are treating their own brothers, just because the brother's skin color is different. Given where many THINK the different (races) came from... brothers Shem, Ham, and Japheth... it's tantamoung to Shem literally persecuting Ham... or Ham persecuting Japheth... etc.

It is not skin color that determines whether one is a brother or not, but blood. And apparently, the blood says these are all brothers. What a shame.

That's why we should pray for Israel; NOT just that she is delivered from HER enemies... but that she is FORGIVEN for what she continually does to her own brothers. As Israel always has (remember what Joseph's brothers did to him!). Because as Christ said, they "do not know what they do."

Peace, dear one!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellama


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For some reason, I feel an inexplicable urge to watch "Tropic Thunder" again. I mean, it WAS hecka funny (IMHO). Robert Downey Jr. plays a VERY convincing "black man." Not many could pull that off, but brutha man sho' did! Had me ROLLIN'.

Yep, think I'm gonna cruise "On Demand" this weekend and see if I can find it. A laugh is good anytime!

Peace... and thanks to dear Pup (peace!) for "sharing" that!

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Shellama, who abslootlee no's bedda'n t'go full reetawd. Shoot, ev'body no's y'don' nevah go FULL reetawd. Well, mebbe not ev'body...


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If you are the type of person that also listens to the DVD movie commentary, Robert Downey Jr. stays in character for the entire movie

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Lol... does he?

I guess it would be easier to do that, than to switch back and forth ; )

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Trivia: he said he's stay in character until the movie was finished. The recording of the audio commentary is considered part of the movie so he really did stay in character :)

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I think I did hear that from Mr. Downey himself, dear Pup, during one of his TV interviews.

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Kirk Lazarus: I know who I am. I'm the dude playin' the dude, disguised as another dude!

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Kinda like a man playing a woman playing a man... or a woman playing a man playing a woman... or a man playing a man playing a du... oh, wait, that's what YOU said, right dear Pup (peace!)?

In which case, I hear ya... LOLOLOL!

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Sounds a bit like that wonderful film Victor Victoria! :D.

I was going to put a link up but I'm on my iPhone and can't seem to find something I can copy and paste. It was a great musical, too!

Anything with Julie Andrews is usually good!


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