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May you ALL have peace!

Tonight I had the privilege of listening in on SixScreens tonight, which was interesting. I didn't realize how interesting... or why I was really there... until just a moment ago. I was discussing the experience with my dinner mates and remembered something that came up on the call: rumors that this might be the last year that the WTBTS will hold its Memorial. This was discussion as a result of a woman in North Carolina inquiring because her father, a WTBTS elder, had Invited her THIS year, something he apparently hadn't done in years (I'm assuming she's Df'd). She had heard that this was the last year and wondered if there was a connection.

Being that the Memorial is one of if not the most important JW meeting we couldn't really understand how that could come about. We discussed the potential impact... and then I heard from my Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit: they will not end the Memorial. BUT... they will one day make some changes... and what they will end is... the passing of the bread and wine. At some point (I do not know if this is the year)... they will conclude that there are none who should partake and so there is no longer a reason to actually pass the "emblems." They will still hold the meeting(s), yes, so the "Memorial" MEETING won't end... but what is DONE at those meetings will.

I state "meeting(s)", plural... because at some point there will be TWO meetings. Just as there is now TWO different WT magazines (one for the public; one for active members). The first will take place on the usual day, Nisan 14, and will be open to the public. The other, however, will take place 30 days later... and be by invitation only. At first, I thought perhaps all "active" members, but my Lord clarified that, no, it will be a private meeting, by invitation only, for ONLY certain "approved" members. Much like their international convention delegations/practices by organization's like the LDS. For those who think this is way out there, think: remember that some are invited to/receive all manner of things "first" before others. And so there won't be any problem explaining that some will be invited to a "special" Memorial event, but others are not.

During the first (public) meeting, the bread and wine will NOT be passed. Their justification for this is the many non-members, disassociated, DF'd... and others they now label "mentally diseased"... who they opine should NOT partake. They will use their position that such ones are NOT "anointed" and so are "profaning" the event to convince their members that the bread and wine no longer SHOULD be passed at such meeting, but will be done at a subsequent meeting.

Here's the thing: because it will only be for those the WTBTS deems "anointed," anyone who wishes to attend the second meeting (who are not sanctioned by the WTBTS - i.e., super old, "company" folk, etc.) MUST inform their elders and undergo "counseling" so that it can "be determined" if they truly SHOULD attend. Since those who will so "deem" will consider them NOT "of the anointed," though, in informing the elders, such ones will now have "revealed" themselves... TO THE WOLVES!

And the result of THAT will be:

1. Those folks who otherwise WOULD partake will either NOT step up and share that they want, desire, NEED to partake... because they don't want to be "counseled"... then "snatched and scattered"... BY such "wolves"... and so, the kingdom will be "shut UP" before such ones; and

2. Those folks who DO step up and ask to attend the "real" Memorial... will receive "counseling" and if they don't change their minds... will be "SNATCHED and SCATTERED"... BY such "wolves"!

The WTBTS simply CANNOT continue to allow the number of partakers to go UP! It totally undermines their false teaching that the number is going DOWN, that most belong to a "great crowd" who do NOT partake and so CANNOT be "anointed." They CANNOT call those partaking to task, however, because (1) some are not even members, (2) they SAY they don't judge this matter, and (3) the meeting is PUBLIC.

With their new process, however, they will not only be able to weed out "false" (in their opinion) partakers, meaning those who aren't even JWs... but take to task those who ARE members but, in the opinion of the WTBTS leadership, should NOT be partaking.

I do not know when these events will take place, but just that they will. And that any who SEE these things starting to occur... really SHOULD flee! Because their ETERNAL lives will depend on them getting OUT of her... before she begins to receive her plagues due to her sins.

I, SA, have shared this with you all, just as I received it from my Lord and King, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah). May those with ears hear... and get the sense that NOW is the time to GET OUT OF HER! Because remember, her end comes quickly. But not before she takes some with her. Please... don't be a casualty of her falsehoods... or your own fear! TRUST... in the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies, with ALL your heart and do NOT lean upon your OWN understanding! In ALL your ways... INCLUDING becoming joined to and being in (union) with His Son... take notice of HIM! He will not only make your paths STRAIGHT... but provide the way OUT for you!

If you don't have ears... then, please... ASK for them! ASK... that you may hear and know the danger in front of you... as well as the Spirit and the Bride when they say to YOU:

"Come!! Take LIFE'S WATER... the holy spirit of God... which "water" is poured out from the innermost parts of His Son and Christ, JAHESHUA, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit... His CHOSEN One (MischaJah)... FREE!"

Servant to the Household of God, Israel, and all those who go with, and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

you missed me and pats 40 minute conversation?

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

If it was after I hung up, dear Skals-Girl (mornin' and peace to you!), I must have. Sorry but what was being discussed wasn't my kind of thing, so I rang off and went to dinner. I did post here during but I didn't go back on the call. To be honest with you, outside of perhaps participating on one of your shows, I probably won't ever call back in. I kinda like "discussing" things here as issues/thoughts can be stated more clearly, IMHO, without "overtalking." You post something, someone responds. On there, seems like a LOT of talking... but not really so much being SAID. At least, nothing new/resolution offering. I'm not into merely whining about thngs I don't like/approve of but learning about, addressing, dealing with, understanding, resolving, etc., as you seem to be (albeit, from a spiritual POV, so that requires acknowledgement of, and input and instruction from, my Lord).

In all honesty, talking (verbally) just for the SAKE of talking... but not really saying anything of SUBSTANCE... or SOME kind of assistance...IMHO, of course - LOLOL! - really works my nerves (as it seemed to have worked yours - LOLOL!). I do realize, of course, that such is/can be cathartic/therapeutic for some, and that's entirely okay, so long as I'm not expected to listen (I would prefer to feed you rather than listen to you whine about how hungry you are - even teach you how to fish. But if YOUR need to whine is greater than your desire to fish... or even eat... then i prolly cant help you... and prolly wont wanna be bothered to long. Not you personally; I meant "you" generally... and ESPECIALLY if you're an "adult.".

But as I've confessed to many who know me over the years... and perhaps some here have discerned - LOLOL! - I would NEVER make even a decent therapist, let alone a good one. I am and would be SO like, "So, okay, but what are you gonna DO about it!? DO... SOMETHING to help get past/deal with it... or get OVER it already!"

I realize, of course, that that's prolly not the BEST way to help someone (who may just need a listening ear)... but then, that's why I'm NOT a therapist... or a priest! LOLOL! I'd prolly "help" someone jump off a bridge even sooner! I don't mean that tongue in cheek, either. I know me. So... I don't TRY to play therapist; folks need professional training for that (which is why the WTBTS "wolves" SHOULDNT BE DOING IT!!), which I DON'T HAVE (and no, Christ's "priestly" training is NOTHING like man's "training." His is to teach us compassion, yes, so that we can PLEAD for others and offer up "sacrifices" for them - which is PRAYER, now, but will be our words, later - or LITERALLY solving the problem (through the gifts of the spirit). It's NOT, however, "soothing" people with words while THEY continue to whine and complain while making CHOICES that "stab them all over with many pains." If it's HURTING you... STOP DOING IT. Otherwise, stop COMPLAINING about it!).

And no, that is NOT harsh, because he SAID, even stood out on the Main Street and YELLED:

"Come to ME... ALL YOU who are LOADED DOWN and TOILING! Take MY yoke... for MY yoke is KINDLY and MY load is LIGHT! ALL YOU who are THIRSTING... COME TO ME... and DRINK!"

The invitation is to EVERYONE... and as much as we'd like to put ALL blame on the WTBTS, even on "Satan"... we can't. Because, excluding minors and the disabled/infirmed who are dependents of/upon others for their care... no one is KEEPING... ANYONE... in the WTBTS... except they themselves! And those who stay DO... because they are LOVING what that harlot does TO them, their children, or other loved ones... OR they fear IT more than they value their own lives or that OF such loved ones. Either way, they are there by CHOICE.

Unfortunately (for some still in, perhaps, but fortunately for those who respond to a more honest, if not "soothing" approach... i deal with the straight on.

And because of THAT... I should prolly give Mr. Fearon and his site a VERY wide berth!).

I realize that there are other facets of the site (thank YOU, dear At, and peace to YOU!), but I think I'm too busy a girl to be able to stay up and check them out. So... MUCH success to you, Mr. Fearon (interesting name: fear on). But I've never seen bashing the non-spiritual parts bring a religion down. It's only when the people who hold it UP realize that God is NOT with a prophet, leader, religion, that they LEAVE it. While some leave because such a revelation causes them to no longer believe there IS a God, those who still BELIEVE there is WON'T... unless and until they are CERTAIN "He" is not THERE.

And exposing things like corruption, pedophilia, and the carnal sins of man won't convince them of that. And we have proof: man'a never ending attempts to REFORM religions (including attempts to reform the WTBTS... rather than getting out altogether)... and the RCC. Just like the RCC... and every other religion of Christendom... they will find the "right" HUMAN leader(s)... to calm folks' hearts... and lull them RIGHT back to sleep!

Nothing new under the sun.

But thank you for inviting me and, as always, peace to you!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Just for context, WTBTS did NOT say this WILL be the last Memorial. It was a question, obviously designed to spur the R&F into more activity. And it's working, apparently.



Gone will be a unique opportunity. Just like last year. And the year before. And the year before. And next year.

Even our normally "zealous" cong is tiring of all these invitation campaigns. Years ago, some one in our cong asked a GB member how the public was responding to the campaigns. She told me that he said, quote: "We're not interested in how the public responds. We're interested in how YOU respond."

I was still asleep back then, but that may have been a trigger that started to wake me up.

How ironic, dear LQ (mornin', dear one, and peace to you!). And THANK you for sharing that! Was his comment perhaps a Freudian slip?? LOLOLOL! I mean, they ARE interested, are they not, in "how" their members "respond" (to partake... or not to partake - that IS the question, yes!?).

Thing is... WHY are they "interested"?

Matthew 24:24; John 6:48-58: 10:1-15; 15:1-7 might shed some "Light" on that.

Again, peace to you!

Shellamar, who has NO doubt that the question was ASKED... in "preparation"... a la "1975" ("Well, we TOLD you/We never SAID"...)...

It wasn't just about the Memorial. It was also in regards to the DC campaign. I think it was after the first or second time JWs did that that the question was posed.

I've heard there will be yet ANOTHER campaign this August. So, three this year again. People in our area are putting up "no JW" and "no religious literature" signs. They're getting sick of it.

I think all these campaigns started out as a "test" to see how far the R&F would obey. At this point, it's become apparent that the R&F will obey nearly anything. If they do go the way you shared above, the typical R&F will see no problem with it. No doubt, scriptures will be cherry picked to show how private meetings are okay, and they'll point out that Jesus never said when or how often to partake (that actually has been stated in the Reasoning book).

Good morning and peace to you ALL today,

It makes perfect sense to handle it this way. They have to try and look good to everyone including the outsiders. Since they are only " observers anyways" and they have been emphasizing this for a while, no one will have a problem with just observing the emblems set " on the table" representing his body and blood.
Anybody who still hears the call to partake ( including outsiders and DFD individuals) they will have to ask publicly or step up to the table ( in front of the whole congregation) and we know how fearful that will be causing many to STOP partaking ALL together.

The numbers start dwindling just as they have planned. And members will say, " SEE, they aren't really supposed to be anyways."

Then among the ACTIVE members deemed worthy enough by the WTBS to be invited to the " private memorial" among those that truly still hear the call to partake of our Lord, the fear of god is instilled in them if do still think they need to partake and many if not most will back down out of fear knowing that they should truly still be partaking. The misleading of chosen ones becomes a real success.

And the numbers keep dwindling just as they have planned it to. They will think they accomplished their purpose. Which to a great degree they will have accomplished Matthew 23:13,

" Woe to you hypocrites, because you shut up the kingdom of the heavens before men, for you yourselves do not go in ( even want to) and you do not permit those on their way IN to go in."

The time is now to heed our lords voice that says, " Get out of her, my people in order not to share with her in her sins and plagues."

With love and peace to you all,
Your sister and fellow slave of Christ, Justmom

They are desperate seeing the number of publishers collapsing and use various tricks to lure them back to the fold-better write 'Prison'. Yet another joke like today's WT study.

The WBT$ JW Memorial has always been a Farce..
It`s the day Jehovah`s Witnesses around the world gather,to Ignore Jesus..
LOL!!..
Having no faith is one thing..but..
Making a Special Point of Ignoring Jesus,is WatchTarded..

Lets Get WatchTarded!..Lets Get WatchTarded!
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Very interesting. Why do they even invite the general public to that anyway? They know passing the emblems by is not going to sit well with those who were taught to partake; sometimes you would even hear someone throwing a fit and having to be taken outside. If that had been the first meeting I went to, I don't think I would've gone back.

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I forget Where I Live.......I can`t Remember my Name!.......They`re going to let me be a Speed Bump at the Kingdom Hall!
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And I used to think "someone is making a KILLING on those magazine folders, Bible covers, bookbags, "literature holders," etc., dear Sher'f (peace, dear dude!). But those wheeled magazine carts? Those CAN'T be cheap! And they're usin' 'em all OVER this area (who needs to go door-to-door when you can stand in a (relatively) clean BART station... and just let folks come to YOU?

They TOTALLY miss my Lord's point about "standing in the broadways... to be observed by people." Oh, that's right; it's not LIKE those folks you see, say, "downtown" who are not only carrying signs but calling out to passersby. No, this is different... 'cause they're not calling OUT to anyone.

Well, anymore. Amazes me how the folks today have no idea... or (conveniently) "forget"... the sandwich boards, train campaigns, trucks cruisin' through neighborhoods with loud speakers blastin', playing phonographs at folks' door... a radio station...

No, no, they've NEVER done anything except stand quietly and wait for people to come up to them...

Poor schmucks.

The black couple almost break my heart: they remind me of the dear couple I first "studied" with, Mom Joan and "Pops" Terry. Older couple. Very kind, very loving (except behind closed doors, per their adult children... or to each other... per Mom). Very "Yep, we done jes' moved offa da' farm even tho' we'z been heah fo' 'bout fo'ty yeahs, now," kind of folks. They were close to 30 years older than me... and I always felt BAD around them... because I couldn't help thinking how... well, "ig'nant" is the word that comes to mind (and I mean NO disrespect - it is a word my "people" use)... they were (compared to what I... and most of the REAL world... knew - and no, I don't mean THOUGHT I knew, I mean knew - trust me, it often wasn't even middle school level stuff!).. compared to them.

Because of this, it was often VERY hard to study with them because I always felt so BAD... because I just KNEW I was being "disrespectful" in my thoughts. Because SO many times I wanted to say, "No, Mom Joan/Pops Terry - it doesn't say/mean that" when she or he would read during my study and then try to explain what we'd just read... which was really WAY over their heads, due to their poor reading skills/comprehension. They would literally replace words with ones that changed the entire meaning of the verse/sentence to state and so mean something it didn't meant at ALL (i.e., "circumvent" with "circulation"... or something like that)... and then try to explain to me what their definition made it mean. AND... they were CONVINCED that THEY understood not only what they'd just read... but what they'd just SAID! I was often like, "Huh...wha... HUH??!" Talk about squirming in my seat!!

Sorry, didn't mean to go (so far) off... but the pic reminded me of them... and my heart felt a little twang. They didn't deserve to be misled like that. I mean SOMEONE (other elders, CO, DO??) should have at least helped them understand that they didn't REALLY understand many words. I mean, so that at least their decision was based on FULL disclosure, y'know?

Poor, poor ig'nant schmucks, some of them. Sadly, those are the one HARDEST to reach. They just can't fathom that there are folks as evil as the WTBTS leadership. At least, not connected to something THEY follow.

Too bad... too bad.

Peace.

A slave of Christ,

Shellamar

Good Evening Shelby!..

From what I`m told..
The WBT$ Sells the WBT$ Literature Carts to the JW`s..(You know every JW will want one and the WBT$ is going to make a killing on them..$$$$$$$$)
I get a laugh out of those carts..
The latest ones have signs that ask.."What Does the Bible Teach?..
Then below it says "Free Bible Literature"..
Theres not a Single Bible on the whole cart!!..It`s all WBT$ Literature LOL!!..
The WBT$ discourages JW`s from having any Bibles in Public View,unless someone specifically asks for one..

Kids will replace words in sentences if they don`t know what a word means..
I gave my son an electronic dictionary so he could learn what they meant..
It`s an investment that paid off..
I hate it when people misuse words..LOL!!..

The WBT$ counts on people who are uneducated..
It`s easier to lead them around..
I`ve heard JW elders say..
"Once someone gets an education,they leave the WBT$"..
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Outlaw, interesting that you say the Borg sells the carts, in the subway station yesterday and today I noticed two small carts that the Dubs use right next to the newsstand. I usually don't use that exit during the weekdays, but I'm going to try to remember to use it tomorrow to see if they're still there and ask the guy behind the newsstand who they belong to and "how do they pay you" for storing their carts there.

Hey Shirley!..

Good Idea!..
Then post your findings on this thread..
I doubt the Borg pays,they suck JW`s dry for every dime..

Oh Look!..
............ The Borg are about to Drop off More WBT$ Literature Carts!..


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