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 Post subject: Re: Aloha, everyone!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:04 pm 
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As soon as I mentioned the name of Christ, it was as if someone flipped a switch and the elder immediately went into Mr. Hyde mode!


I've actually witnessed the literal "gnashing of teeth" by some, dear Marjorie (mornin' and peace to you, dear one!). I was like, "OMG, he meant that they would REALLY do it!" LOLOLOL!

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JWs are actively persecuting Christians.


As our dear Lord said would occur, due to the sheep having been abandoned by the "hired man" (GB):

"The hired hand, since he isn’t a shepherd and the sheep aren’t his own, sees the wolf coming, abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf drags them off and scatters them. The hired worker behaves like this because that’s all he is, a hired worker; so it doesn’t matter to [the hired hand] what happens to the sheep." John 10:12, 13

And it's going to get worse for any who remain in her. If we look back to what occurred in Jerusalem... before ITS devastation by the Romans... the call to get OUT has a much to do with the danger WITHIN (brother delivering up brother), as it does with the plagues that will be brought due to her sins.

May those within her who wish it be given ears so as to hear the BETTER call, that of the Spirit and the Bride, when these say to such ones:

"COME!"

The choice is to stay... and drink the wormwoody "water" prepared by that harlot... or get out, flee to "Zion"... and take from the LIVING water... which comes out from the throne of God and of the Lamb, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischJah) there... FREE!"

Christ... is the WAY, dear ones... and so we must walk... in HIM! (Isaiah 30:19-21; John 14:6

Thank you for your wonderful comments, dear Marjorie!

Peace to you, all!

YSSFS of Christ,

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:11 pm 
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Thank you for sharing that conversation, dear Marjorie (again, peace to you!). All one can do is shake one's head... over the, well, absurdity of the man's thinking/position!

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People who have never been JWs have no idea what a person has to deal with in order to leave the WTS.


Which is very revealing, isn't it? What do they care if someone wants to leave? I will tell you: mammon. True, these "shepherds" THINK they are watching over the belongings of Christ, but the truth is all they are doing is watching over the "belongings" of their false god, the WTBTS.

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I left pretty much unscathed


Praise JAH!!

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others have lost their entire families or committed suicide, losing their lives.


Yes. Oh, dear God, yes. May those who have robbed such ones of their families, possessions... lives... repent and turn AROUND... and try, SOMEHOW, to mitigate their bloodguilt... and receive full forgiveness for just trying. Else, they risk being made to pay full recompense, as justice requires.

Again, thank you for sharing!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:32 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:14 am 
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Hi, Leaving_quietly. I'm sorry to hear that you're stuck in at the moment. I feel for anyone that knows the truth about the Society and yet must continue to attend meetings.

How I woke up and got out? Well, it wasn't any one thing, but a combination of several. All my questions, doubts and negative experiences were filed away in a metaphoric 'file cabinet' in my mind. The file cabinet became so full that I couldn't ignore it any more. Questions about the 607/1914/1925/1975 dates, which were never really answered to my total satisfaction. The shunning situation, which I was never told about before fully committing (surprise, surprise), and I never practiced. The insistence on 'field service', which was such a ineffective, blatant sham. How superstitious and weak their faith seemed to be, and how their doctrines could never be examined. The Memorial (seriously, what the...) Too many damn mandatory meetings, especially when you could see that people were exhausted.

I could on. The coup de grâce was the pedophile scandals and the demonization of the victims. I thought that any group of people that could ostracize victims of sexual abuse in order to protect its reputation was clearly unholy, and if they were unholy in this very serious matter, then how else were they unholy.

I also believe that my personal background may have helped. My situation was perhaps unusual, in that I wasn't a born-in, nor an adult convert, but somewhere between the two. My parents were Roman Catholics, but my maternal grandmother and aunts were JWs, and since I was an only child, my parents thought it would good if I spent a lot of time with my aunts and cousins.

It was a huge mistake. My JW family started to indoctrinate me from the age of 4 (or perhaps even earlier) without parental permission. I had my own books to study from, and was frequently called upon by the elders to answer the 'questions' (which were really rote memorization) to the delight of the rest of the congregation. When my father finally found out he was furious, and ordered his in-laws to stop, it was too late, and the indoctrination had taken hold. My grandmother and aunts ignored him and secretly placed literature in my room. My parents argued about the situation all the time. The RC school and church that I attended didn't help, either. This was all just after Vatican II, and the Latin Mass, which I loved, was suddenly replaced with godawful stuff like clown masses, hippie-goddess-touchy-feely stuff...oh, it was awful. I felt that the reverence for God was gone in the RC Church. I also felt confused and guilty that my family was arguing over me. I knew that I loved God, but I felt that I could no longer trust the Roman Catholic church. I also felt that I couldn't fully commit to the JWs either, especially since my studying with them was tearing my family apart. I bounced back and forth between those two feelings for most of my life until I agreed to study with the JWs again and finally got baptized in 1996.

I don't see the years that I spent as a JW a total loss, though. At the time that I got baptized, I didn't have access to a computer to research any doubts, and so I got to see things firsthand. That isn't necessary anymore. Computers are much more prevalent now, and the Society has definitely been damaged by the internet. I learned that the spirit of the antichrist is alive and well, and so no Christian can take their faith for granted. Not even for one second.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 4:02 am 
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Also, my marriage was invaluable in helping me to wake up.

I always endeavored to be honest with Mr. Marjorie. He was a Roman Catholic too, but never believed for one second the WT lies. I never lied to him about the Society. I told him everything: good, bad, whatever...I told him. When Dateline had the child abuse exposés, I told him. When I read about JW spouses refusing to discuss the various problems and scandals, I think about how sad it is that the Society has taught them how to be dishonest in their most intimate relationships.

There was none of that in our marriage, however. I, of course, would give him the spiel about Armageddon, blah-blah-blah, and he would say, not for me. This would make me very uneasy. According to the Society, he would be destroyed, but I could not see God destroying him - Mr. Marjorie is the kindest person that I have ever personally known. I knew that God would never do such a thing. And there had to be other people, equally as kind...what about them? Something wasn't right...

Mr. Marjorie would ask me questions. They were simple questions, but they made me think. He would ask me about the Memorial, "Aren't we supposed to eat the 'emblems'? Don't you remember Mass?", and my mind would fight: indoctrination against biblical truths.

The most penetrating question that hubby ever asked was, "Do you think that you are in a cult?" The fact that my wonderful husband thought that I was in a cult disturbed me to no end. Why would he think that? Could it possibly be true? His opinion I trusted. The WTS...well, it was beginning to look a lot less credible as time went by.

It's very important to question your dubs. Make them defend their doctrine. They probably will not have a satisfactory response right away, but that's okay. Trust me, they will remember the question, and how it could not be properly answered.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:39 am 
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Good morning Marjorie and THANK YOU...

For sharing all of this with us. It is so true what you are sharing.
I remember in the first couple weeks that the light bulb went on for me, that I was saying it was " a cult" and I could not believe those words were coming out of my mouth.

But so true it is!

This organization, the WTBS that hides behind this so- called GB of anointed impostors, is a cruel and merciless beast, an anti- CHRIST who shuts up the kingdom for all of its sheep and lies to them promising them life in a paradise forever without even being known by the one that will grant them this life, CHRIST!

They are wolves in sheeps clothing as they and the hired man, the corporation supposedly run by the GB do not care about them in any way.

They have set themselves up as " the truth " which belongs only to CHRIST. ( I am the way and the truth and the life ).... No one nowhere else can make this promise or take this title and yet they so proudly do! They have repeatedly and continuously been a " false prophet" and a " false CHRIST"
Playing our mediator between Jah and CHRIST.

And it goes on and on......and yet when anyone anywhere stands up and calls them on the carpet, they are put to death by Disfellowshipping for even questioning their mistakes. Then labeled as apostate and the fear of god instilled in its other members to stay away from them ( for fear of armaggedon) like they have leprosy and are unclean, trying to tear apart their unity! WHAT UNITY???

But our wonderful, loving, merciful, Lord and Father are calling HIS sheep OUT!
" Get out of her my people " Anyone who knows what the WTBS truthfully is needs to heed this call NOW!

Please do not wait!

Our Lord is standing with his hand open ready to heal you of all your wounds and pain. Come to him and let him. Let him guide you and lead you into ALL truth. The real truth that IS and comes from HIM!

And... Come takes life's water free! This water is Holy Spirit, and there is only ONE that can dispense it from the source.

With love to you all this day,
You sister and fellow servant in CHRIST, Kim


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:13 pm 
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"Aloha"
So do you live in Hawaii?!..
Are there any rent to own "Hula Dancer" Shops there?!..
I have enough money for 2 payments and a postage stamp..

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:53 pm 
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OUTLAW wrote:
"Aloha"
So do you live in Hawaii?!..
Are there any rent to own "Hula Dancer" Shops there?!..
I have enough money for 2 payments and a postage stamp..

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Please send her ASAP..Theres not much entertainment here..

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Well, let me say this much: humans are tropical critters, but I am more tropical than most...
Right now, I live in the not-so-frigid-today Northeast.
As per your other question, I think your best option is to come to Hawai'i, and pick your favorite yourself!


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 12:56 pm 
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Good Morning Marjorie!..

I love tropical weather..
I could easily bring my Igloo to Hawaii and watch it melt,with no remorse..
I`d live on the beach with my pets..The penguins love wearing Speedo`s..

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Gosh, how did I get so far behind in keeping up with this board? Welcome Marjorie. Great to have you here and sharing your story.

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Brother Misled: {sputtering} Christ? Christ?! Who told you about Christ?!

Wth and omg; I'm just flabbergasted at this. I really thought this WAS a parody until you said it was a verbatim conversation.


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It's lovely to read your story Marjorie and hearing your inner thoughts along your journey. Thank you for sharing it with us. I am very glad that you've found us and can now enjoy sharing about Christ freely and openly here.

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Wth and omg; I'm just flabbergasted at this. I really thought this WAS a parody until you said it was a verbatim conversation.

Hi Ataloa!
That conversation still seems surreal to me! It's so ludicrous, only another ex-JW would understand.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 2:51 am 
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Loz wrote:
It's lovely to read your story Marjorie and hearing your inner thoughts along your journey. Thank you for sharing it with us. I am very glad that you've found us and can now enjoy sharing about Christ freely and openly here.

Loz x


Thanks, Loz! I'm glad to be here, too.

Your still journeying sister in Christ,
Marjorie


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