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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:21 am 
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MEDEWTYSENU SAID

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/we-will ... hild-abuse
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:22 am 
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THANK you for posting this, dear MS (the greatest of love and peace to you!). I couldn't quite get to it from your link but here are some other links that might help:

http://jwsurvey.org/category/cedars-blog

http://jwsurvey.org/wp-content/uploads/ ... -Abuse.pdf

BTW, there seems to be a contradiction in the letter -

Paragraph 15 states:

"15. Who is considered a known child molester? The January 1, 1997, Watchtower article “Let Us Abhor What Is Wicked” mentions on page 29 [color=#008000]that a man “known to have been a child molester” does not qualify for privileges in the congregation. The expression “known to have been a child molester” has reference to how such a man is considered in the community and in the Christian congregation. In the eyes of the congregation, an adult “known” to be a former child molester is not “free from accusation” or “irreprehensible,” nor does he have “a fine testimony from people on the outside.” (1 Tim. 3:1-7, 10; 5:22; Titus 1:7) In view of his past, those in the community would not respect him and congregation members might be stumbled over his appointment. Keep in mind that the branch office, not the local body of elders, determines whether one who has sexually abused a child is considered a known child molester[/color]."

Under the heading "RESTRICTIONS AND PRIVILEGES," though, Paragraph 22- state:

"22. [color=#008000]It cannot be said in every case that one who has sexually abused a child could never qualify for privileges of service in the congregation. However, the elders will certainly want to be very cautious, especially when dealing with one who had repeatedly engaged in this kind of wrongdoing or who had been disfellowshipped for such an offense. Before privileges can be extended, such a man must meet the Scriptural qualifications of being “self-controlled” and “irreprehensible.” He must “also have a fine testimony” from individuals inside and outside the congregation. (Titus 1:6-8; 1 Tim. 3:2, 7) Elders should keep in mind what is stated in the January 1, 1997, Watchtower article “Let Us Abhor What Is Wicked,” page 29, paragraph 2: “Child sexual abuse reveals an unnatural fleshly weakness. Experience has shown that such an adult may well molest other children. True, not every child molester repeats the sin, but many do. And the congregation cannot read hearts to tell who is and who is not liable to molest children again. (Jeremiah 17:9) Hence, Paul’s counsel to Timothy applies with special force in the case of baptized adults who have molested children: ‘Never lay your hands hastily upon any man; neither be a sharer in the sins of others.’[/color] (1 Timothy 5:22).”

"23. Hence, [color=#008000]privileges of service should never be extended hastily. Considerable time should always pass before one who has sexually abused a child is recommended, if ever. It would be up to the local body of elders to determine whether such a recommendation should be made to the branch office, taking into account all factors in each individual case. Please note that unless specifically approved by the branch office, one who has sexually abused a child should not be used to conduct any meetings held in the congregation or in a prison, and he does not qualify to work on any Kingdom Hall project other than one involving the congregation where he serves as a publishe[/color]r.

"24. If the elders as a body conclude that one who has sexually abused a child in the distant past [color=#008000]may now qualify for privileges, they should assign two elders to call the Service Departmen[/color]t."

Sounds to ME like they're changing from their previous stance that child molesters could NEVER hold privileges... to now they can, after some time has passed and the BOD/Service Committee/Branch believe it's "now okay."

I think perhaps they didn't think this through before issuing this letter, which might be a good thing. Perhaps it'll helps put a noose around "her" neck, maybe even be the spark that lights the "fire" that will eventually "completely burn her" up.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:25 am 
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OUTLAW SAID

The Good News is the WBT$ BOE Letter is now Public..
The WBT$ is Demanding "More Resposibility in JW children Sexual Abuse Crimes"..
They`re going to get it.

Lawyers Representing Sexually abused JW Children..
Will Tear the WBT$ to Shreds in a Court Room with this Information..

The WBT$ DEMANDS more Responsibility..
................... Promoting..
.. WBT$ Criminal Activity..


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:26 am 
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JUSTMOM SAID

OMG

Yes ........They cannot realize what they have done! They are going backwards and even minimizing this crime .
They are exposing themselves even MORE

Thanks for the link sis
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:26 am 
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OUTLAW SAID

Hey Shelby!..

I think the contradiction is just an over sight..

With the exception of that..
The entire BOE letter gives Sexual Child Abusers..
The WBT$ stamp of approval..

After losing the Candace Condi case
The WBT$ is snubbing their noses at the legal system..


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:26 am 
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The entire BOE letter gives Sexual Child Abusers..
The WBT$ stamp of approval...



And that's my point, dear one (peace to you!). Seems like they were previously protected by saying "no privilges," when NOW they're saying, "Okay, yeah, they can have privileges." As dear 'Mom posted (peace to you, too!)... going backward... and possible to her own demise.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:28 am 
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OUTLAW SAID

What does the WBT$ BOE Letter really mean?

.. After losing the Candace Condi Case..
The WBT$ sends the Legal Authorities..
............... A Clear Message..

(MIDDLE FINGER PIC HERE)


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:29 am 
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CRIMINY SAID

Really, OUTLAW?

Could you please moderate yourself?
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OUTLAW SAID

Hey Criminy..

It`s the truth..It`s on topic
There`s no point candy coating it..
And..
I use visuals to get my point across..
Apparently this one did it`s job..


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:29 am 
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Not sure I understand, dear Crim (peace to you!) just what should be "moderated". Please understand, I am NOT taking issue with you (nor would I do anything - I'm not a moderator here) - I just want to understand (no, seriously) what was... mmmmm... "wrong" with the post. I don't always think/see/speak as others do and that may be due to MY perception so I really am trying to understand.

Or perhaps you're not being serious - truly, I don't know (I keep telling folks I'm not the brightest crayon in the box but they just don't believe it).

Can you clarify, please?

Thank you and, again, peace to you!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:30 am 
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Peace to you Crim, but I'm with AGuest.. not exactly sure on what you mean by "moderate"?

The WTS took the very title, "We will decide who is a predator." So basically, Outlaw clearly just posted what they are doing/thinking...
They are telling the Law itself "NO, WE MAKE THE RULES AROUND HERE"

And they get away with it!

The lies, abuse, scandals and death(murders) are just casualties if nothing less to the WTGB...

And to throw this out there, WHY is there EIGHT of these so-called members? I mean, really? Everyone other religion has only ONE, and they get 8?! They all, supposedly, preach the word or Jesus and Jehovah yet call themselves Governing Body over their own religion? THEY get to partake while EVERYONE else in their religion passes the emblem?

Looking from outside that nightmare of a box, I see a lot of corruption. Even as somewhat of a babe..

I found this interesting...
Check out the section... Has Anyone Ever Left the Governing Body?
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/the-gov ... -explained[/url]

Thank You for this Thread, Peace to all and Truth to those who ask


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Shoot, and I thought Mr. Franz was the only anomaly, dear JP (peace to you!). My, my...

Thanks for the link!

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How simple it would and could, truly be, if many printed this letter out and distributed it everywhere. ...offline. Yet, especially their fellow sheeps. just slip them one at the meeting or FS. Simple.

And also, distribute it all over the internet and post it on bb boards. offline too. Simply "place" them everywhere.

Request: if anyone would kindly ask 'flipper' to read their pm box here. thx.

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OUTLAW SAID

Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!..
Nice to have you back ((sKallyWagger!))..


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A catholic priest(politician,pedophile)just got six years in prison for moving a pedo priest from one church to another and covering for him.Cant wait to hear when these scumbags go to prison and get some HARD time!These people are demonic!They know a lot about demons because they are like them! >:(

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