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Hmm this 1000 year reign will you be you this entire time? Or will the Christ in you move from bodily vessel to bodily vessel?

If you are to remain in your current physical form for the next 1000 years will you stop aging at a certain point or will you eventually turn into a walking raisin?
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Just to clarify. If I believed Christ was returning in a human form I'd have no issue with him being black, nor indeed in the body of a repentant sinner (of any sins). I don't believe that's how he'll return though, and I don't see any evidence for it. I do however respect very much the way you are answering with such dignity.

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That's perfectly okay. There is always going to be a choice. I just wanted to show what scriptures were there that would 'alternatively" lead some to believe Christ would return in this manner.

But the chronology for the 2nd coming is another story. That is totally dependent upon math and numbers and absolutes. It has to occur in 1992-1993 for the Bible to be true. That's not optional. But the other issues, the broader interpretation of the parables of the prodigal son and that of Lazarus are something else. But also, you have the WTS' take on these parables. I may have an idea, you may have an idea, but they also have an idea, and in an XJW discussion group, that's relevant what the WTS is teaching or interpreting here, in and of itself.

Thanks so much for hanging in there with me this far. Many would not even hear of it. The closer we get to Armageddon, the less interpretations will be available for us. So we shall see. The important thing is not to fall asleep at this critical time, right?
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Hmm this 1000 year reign will you be you this entire time? Or will the Christ in you move from bodily vessel to bodily vessel?

If you are to remain in your current physical form for the next 1000 years will you stop aging at a certain point or will you eventually turn into a walking raisin?


Amazing. You know, you're the first person who got to thinking this way.

My impression is that those who survive and who are to enjoy the millennium will have to be cured of the aging process to do so. But don't forget, Paul, John and at least one member of the 12 tribes of Israel are still alive today from the 1st Century! Paul never died! Neither did John. They looked "middle aged" to me. But that might have been a convention for them living that way through all the centuries. You know, if they looked too young it might be noticeable. But a middle aged person can always look a lot older. I imagine the "congregation' had to move around every 100 years or so, just so they wouldn't be noticed by others as not aging.

So on one point, yes, I believe I will stop aging. I'm 62 now, but look 59-1/2! Naw. I look young for my age as does most of my family. That is, if you don't look too close. I look in the mirror now, especially when I'm tired and I definitely look my age to me.

As far as Christ's thoughts coming into my consciousness, yes I believe that will take place though it hasn't taken place yet. It probably will seem like looking at a movie. Or like taking a memory pill and you suddenly remember or see someone's entire life. So in a sense, having no personal talents really, I feel like I've died already and given my body over to science and they can use it as they wish.

Same with the 1st resurrection. All those people who are resurrected, prior to the 2nd coming, are in the bodies of modern anointed ones. So at some point I suppose those memory banks will be more self conscious. It will be a wonderful thing.

The nice thing about being the Christ, to me, is that I just have to carry out instructions. Just like before. You know, I'm a messenger and I deliver messages. I'm a prophet and I give interpretation of scripture. I don't have to like, figure out how to save the world economy or anything! Oh, did I say "doomed" world economy?

Then, when we get spiritual bodies, we all will be married to each other in one body. So I don't know exactly how that is going to be. That's all the thought I've given it.

I'll tell you this. High-level spiritual things are kept from me. It's as if the high voltage will burn out my circuits when dealing with things too spiritual since I'm in this physical body state. The game plan in place now, for all the surveillance I'm under, is for me to appear more human than normal. You know, I'm not a monk sitting at the computer all day (well of late I am, but..). But I go out and gamble (play video games, buy lottery tickets) and I sing karaoke. I have friends I hang out with and eat out with, etc. I drink alcohol, though less now, etc. If I were consciously aware of everything going on around me, I'd probably freak out and it would change my behavior. I think that change in behavior would be obvious to those watching me and then they might try to hassle me. So we'll see.

I will be ruling from Honolulu, though, and not Jerusalem! Now that will be amazing. The Kingdom buildings are already built and right in front of the beach at Ala Moana! It's the ideal city for the Kingdom, since it has a concentration of accommodation and meeting places right there in Waikiki. You can imagine I will be hosting lots of classes and events for those coming to the Kingdom Headquarters. I know I will be hosting and meeting a lot of the elect. Hawaii is an ideal place for one-on-one. You can just walk outside and be in paradise. I used to live there before coming to Texas to be with my parents.

The Bible says, "no one will say they are sick" so I'm sure disease and illness will vanish and I'll be in good health. That's a blessing!

Thanks for asking. At least you're considering the possibility and context and thinking what that means.

Basically, I'm planning to take a back seat and do what Christ and/or Jehovah tell me to do. I'm here for the ride of a lifetime.
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"Basically, I'm planning to take a back seat and do what Christ and/or Jehovah tell me to do. I'm here for the ride of a lifetime."

Seems you are confusing sex and religion again!


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"Basically, I'm planning to take a back seat and do what Christ and/or Jehovah tell me to do. I'm here for the ride of a lifetime."

Seems you are confusing sex and religion again!


ROFL!!

Actually, I'm planning on doing a lot of "entertaining", that is, "hosting" for the elect. I know that will be part of it.

1000 years x 360 days is 360,000 days. There are over a million elect. So even if I spent 360 days a year just meeting the elect individually, I could only devote a day each to about a third of them!

Plus I know I will need to spend some time traveling ("touring"), to see the people of the world and world conditions and everything. Clearly, I'll just be meeting and greeting most, including the anointed. But I'll have forever after Judgment Day to get to know them intimately well, since I'll be married to them, right. So all in good time.

It's going to be a busy time, but I'm up for it. I want the world to reach its full potential for this period and prepare the world for Satan's final temptation. I know many will not like me. But that's that.
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Lars, perhaps you could share with us what exactly happened when you believe you became 'Christ' on Dec 25th 1992?

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Lars, perhaps you could share with us what exactly happened when you believe you became 'Christ' on Dec 25th 1992?

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Hmmm. Well, let's see.

It's going to be a long lead-up or just the actual event. I'll save you and opt for the event.

Basically, a dumpster was pointed out to me by a JIOR (secret society) member and I understood I was to go get into that dumpster at midnight. That is, I was to leave my motel room exactly at midnight on Christmas Eve. Surveillance presumably was skeletal and I had booked two days in the motel, which was reassuring that I would be there. But there must have been a short break in the surveillance right at midnight, allowing me to leave my motel room and escape into the neighborhood. It was Christmastime, of course, so flashing lights on the lawn led me to where I needed to go to the dumpster. The stores would be closed so nobody would be around.

I didn't know what was going to take place. I was led to believe this was part of an escape plan. I was to take my clothes off (stripped down to underwear) and then someone else in the dumpster would exchange clothes with me and lead those pursuing me away from me. Then I'd escape in a camper which would come and pick me up.

But after quietly removing my clothes, I realized no one else was in the dumpster, even though I actually saw a person go in that direction carrying a handbag. Anyway, I was told to lie down and make myself as comfortable as possible under a Christmas tree that had been thrown into the dumpster, making it quite warm. It was important I positioned myself to eliminate any pressure points as I'd be there a long time.

Then, all of a sudden, Jehovah appeared above me with Satan, of all people! I thought he was the arch enemy. But there the two were. Jehovah had summoned him and wanted to basically brag about how much pain I could withstand. I had been in a dumpster the previous day and ordered not to move on fear of my life, even when the pain became excruciating. But this is just like with Job. God likes to wager ("gamble") about things. So here Jehovah was trying to get Satan to bet on how much pain I could endure. Satan wasn't really into it. He seemed very busy and a bit annoyed he had been summoned. Of course, I was protesting a little and then Jehovah gave into me and let Satan go. So that was interesting. Satan had the appearance of a handsome young Nazi, in case you were going to ask. Jehovah looks like a brown-skinned black man with a super smooth natural, which is why his hair is described as like "fine wool" in the Bible.

Anyway, after that, I positioned myself comfortably as possible and fell asleep. Then the visions came. I was in heaven and a trial was going on. Satan was on trial. So the war in heaven was really a court case to see if he deserved death or not. At the end of the trial it was concluded that regardless of Satan's issues and extenuating circumstances, his decision to kill billions of innocent men was pure vindictiveness and there was absolutely no excuse for it. So we demanded his death and I volunteered to die in order to make it happen. So Satan got kicked out because of that.

But at this point, I began to wonder just who I was? I mean, I had seen Jesus earlier myself, but this seemed to be a lot of trouble and a lot of focus on me just as a prophet. So I asked Jehovah, "Where is Jesus?" I hadn't seen him at the trial. So at that point, Jesus' spirit just dropped down into my body. His spirit or whatever. So I became the Christ. Christ was now dwelling in my body. We had become one.

But now, of course, being very curious about seeing Jehovah more directly, I knew NOW he couldn't avoid me. So sure enough, I was sitting in front of him. As I said, he looks black and has a natural. Actually, he is half white and half black, but that means you still look "black." I note that just to say he was not dark complected. But his hair was not long and wavy, but in a smooth "natural" like the Jackson-5 used to wear. I was surprised to see he was black, though. His demeanor, though was that of a scientist; you know, like Einstein. He was focussed on me for that moment, but I could tell he was doing something else.

Of course, stupid me, I asked: "How did you get here?" You know? We are curious about his origins. He just very flatly stated: "I've always been here." Of course, I thought to myself: You stupid idiot! You already knew that! The memory of what we talked about and what else transpired is wiped from my memory. I just remember it was very bright and there was a huge tree nearby. And I had two interviews with him.

Then later I woke up. It was the 26th. I still thought I was supposed to escape and there were cars at the store nearby. I was a bit confused. I crawled out of the dumpster and crawled under a fence which fenced off some railroad tracks. By the way, there was a brand new box to put my clothes in and even a little bucket to sit on, plus some tortillas which I suppose they thought I would eat if I got hungry. Plus there was some material from my real estate office that I had thrown out; my real estate office was in another city. So I guess that was to assure me that I wasn't hallucinating and that others were definitely watching and involved with all this.

But after lying there near the tracks for a short while, extremely hungry, I looked up and there was the image in the clouds of an infant lying on a cloud. It was glorious! Next to that was a very distinctive image of an eagle with wings spread out. Then I saw a vision of the heavens opened and thousands of angels were applauding me as well as the JIOR who had helped set all this up whom I was following to get to the dumpster, etc. I could hear their prayers. So they were applauding me that I had become the messiah. Then a voice, with thunder in the background said: "This is my son, whom I have approved."

I started to backtrack a little, false modesty maybe, thinking I wasn't worthy of the job, whatever. Then Jehovah reminded me of what I had thought to myself at the 1975 Assembly. There was a talk about paying your vow that you made if you made it, you know, under duress. I had secretly decided to myself that I wasn't going to make any vow. Well, Jehovah had heard that!! He reminded me how I was so willing to DO ANYTHING just to get back into his favor, so what was the problem? Even so, I had to vow to carry out the mission of being the Christ. I had already the day before shown I was willing to sacrifice myself to the death if told. But in a way, if you are directly dealing with Jehovah and holy spirit and you know for a fact that even if you die you're going to heaven, your place in heaven is assured, then its not so easy to die.

So I'm "under contract" to stay focussed and fulfill my obligation as the Christ.

All that was wonderful and then things settled down a bit and I started to get cold, plus I was excruciatingly hungry. I remember just relishing a piece of cheese and how wonderful that would be. But Jehovah had other plans in mind for me. I'm sort of a self-confident kind of person; you know, I've always been rather on the smart side. So Jehovah had to discipline me. As the Bible says, he loves to "crush" the ones he loves. This was for my own good. So I was led down the tracks, barefoot, and just in shorts and a T-shirt until my feet began to blister.

finally, when I figured out there was not going to be any escape and I needed to get back to my life, I went to a phone booth and called my parents who were worried to death about me. My dad thought I was dead someplace and went looking for me down all these dark allies. My wonderful parents came and got me. I left my clothes and computer and money in the dumpster.

I was shivering like crazy. And sooo hungry. But I was not SICK! No runny nose, no sneezing. Just freezing cold! I couldn't stop shaking. My mom kept feeding me eggs and pancakes I think. So they remember that night for sure.

The next day, I went to check on the dumpster to see if anything was still there. My dad went with me and he saw a dump truck across the street just waiting to come over and dump everything from the dumpster I had been in. I had a couple hundred dollars, my laptop and clothes still in there. So I got those out and that was that.

My immediate role was to communicate the new research and light to the JIOR so the woman began to be fed, by me, for 42 months. I had no direct contact with the WTS after that, that is, officially as the Christ.

Now, that was 1992. It was not until the Fall of 1998 that I announced in the newsgroups that I was the Christ. Then on December 26, 1998, the "sign of the son of man" appeared to someone who had befriended me and claimed she believed I was the Christ. So when the opportunity to photograph the skies that night came up because of possible images, she got her camera and took photos from 3-6 p.m. Among those photos was the image you see in my avatar, the face of a sleeping black child! So that sign began to appear, apparently right after I was born in 1950. So that promise has come true!! Matthew 24:29 says that "Immediately after the tribulation of those days.." after imposing spiritual darkness, then the "sign of the son of man" would appear in the sky. The tribulation was the Holocaust, which ended early in 1945. But the exile of the Jews did not end until 1947. The State of Israel was set up in the Spring of 1948. That is when the messiah was to be "near at the doors." I was born in January of 1950.

I hadn't seen that sign before. What I saw was the glorious image of an infant lying on a cloud. But when I saw the face, I immediately understood what it meant and immediately recognized it from the Revelation Book.

Now to be frank, that's a miracle. Plus, if you are a bystander, like the CIA or FBI and you know about this image in the skies and its meaning, of course, you are going to want to investigate it and try to contain it. This is likely the one thing that made the UN take the potential for Christ arriving this way seriously. I mean, you can't ignore a miracle. Some Christians my insist on claiming they don't see anything, but others who are just looking at this objectively, know there is something to this.

Also, don't forget, the Bible says the UN kills the "two witnesses" for 3.5 days. That is, their witnessing ended when Christ did not arrive on December 21st. The WTS was a member of the UN at the time, so their participation was considered the same as that of the UN. Plus, how did the UN focus on me unless the WTS pointed me out. They were able to point me out because I wrote them that letter on November 10, "disfellowshipping" the GB and telling them they were the evil slave, etc. So they knew who I was. Anyway, the very next day Jehovah executed Fred Franz, the 22nd.

Now think about this! The Bible is amazing to be able to predict there would even be a UN! The UN is interested because they know too many individual people see this sign! This sleeping black child which they relate to Christ taking up the body of a black JW.

I think at first, there was a reluctance to try to kill me. As far as they were concerned, preventing the 2nd coming from happening by keeping me awake was the better choice. Franz didn't want any blood on his hands. That was accomplished using anti-sleep air-born drugs they waved passed me laden with perfume. That prevented the 2nd coming on the 21st and killed the "two witnesses" as far as the 21st goes. But it occurred on the 25th.

Of course, after that, there have been several assassination attempts made to look like street violence since then. That I know of. Who knows how many other planned traps or assassination attempts that Jehovah thwarted took place. Their problem is that the JIOR always finds out what they are up to and thwarts their plans.

Well, that's it. I'm waiting to see what magical powers I'm going to get that will convince the lot of you I must be the Christ. Then Armageddon!

My take is that likely these governments are not going to give up their sovereignty to the UN unless there is a major global economic catastrophe. But that's what we are all facing right now. So there is no reason to think we're not right on the brink of the "point of no return." When we see the UN destroy the Federal Reserve, that means the UN is turning on Babylon the Great and that is when the UN takes over world control for a short while. When the UN attains "peace and security" then Armageddon will be begin.

So how long do you really think the world economy is going to hold out?

The FULL CIRCLE point here is that, Armageddon can freely occur now since the Christ arrived in 1992. So all is well, Biblically and prophetically speaking.
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[Thanks so much for hanging in there with me this far. Many would not even hear of it. The closer we get to Armageddon, the less interpretations will be available for us. So we shall see. The important thing is not to fall asleep at this critical time, right?


Good morning Lars

Yes you would think so. Falling asleep can be detrimental.
But doesn't the account about the ten virgins say that lALL TEN fall asleeep? Even the wise virgins fall asleep?
It is the issue as to whether there was enough "OIL" (HOLY SPIRIT)in their receptacles so as to go with the Bridegrrom when they heard His voice. SO as much as we would not want to fall asleep, we will.

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I will be ruling from Honolulu, though, and not Jerusalem! Now that will be amazing.....Lars


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Yes you would think so. Falling asleep can be detrimental.
But doesn't the account about the ten virgins say that lALL TEN fall asleeep? Even the wise virgins fall asleep?
It is the issue as to whether there was enough "OIL" (HOLY SPIRIT)in their receptacles so as to go with the Bridegrrom when they heard His voice. SO as much as we would not want to fall asleep, we will.

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This is prophetic and had specific fulfillment. Note Matthew 24:29 where it notes that after the tribulation of those days, that is, after the Holocaust, there would be a period of spiritual darkness where the sun, moon and stars would not shine. This is when the 10 virgins ALL went to sleep prior to the 2nd coming and the revelation of Christ.

So ALL ten virgins going to sleep was because of a God-imiposed spiritual blindness and sleep. This was the period from after the Holocaust and after the State of Israel was set up until 1998.

The ten virgins represent the anointed among JWs. They did not understand the dating and nature of the 2nd coming. The vineyard workers, also a reference to the work of Jehovah's witnesses beginning in 1914 lasted for 11 hours. Each hour is 7 years and thus 77 years from 1914-1991. Then during the "12th hour" which is also the "last hour", Christ begins to pay the workers from the last to the first. This last hour of 7 years would be from 1991-1998.

But then, in 1998, I announced publicly that I had become the messiah in 1992. This is the "cry" that went out and woke the 10 virgins. But only the wise virgins had the "extra oil" to get their lamps burning. They did not share this with the foolish virgins, who were told to buy oil from those who sold it.

So at this point, after announcing I was the Christ publicly, the wise virgins, who were into the "extra" things in the Bible, like chronology, prophetic parables and prophetic patterns, could see how the Bible supported the Christ arriving as I had and thus they accepted me as the messiah. That is, HALF of the elect who examined the chronology and the messianic parables in the Bible concluded I must be the messiah and accepted me. But they did not tell the "foolish virgins" about this. They kept this to themselves so that their conversion was secretive.

Also, they were given a little something extra. On December 26, 1998, the "sign of the son of man" appeared to a skyscape photographer who was in contact with the Christ and so the Christ ended up with a photo of the actual "sign of the son of man." That was very convincing to them that I must be the chosen messiah and Christ.

So this reference as a specific fulfillment!

Now we are at that point where the "foolish virgins" are figuring out the chronology, hopefully, and the other scriptures and now they are ready to accept me as the Christ, or soon will be. But it will be too late. The five foolish virgins arrive too late to the wedding feast and are rejected.

So really, the only way to accept me as the Christ is to be aware of those scriptures that support Christ arriving in the imperfect flesh, black, gay and an XJW and x-male prostitute. If that is the interpretation one understands, then I fit what is expected. But if someone rejects what the Bible says, there is no reason for them to think I'm the chosen Christ of the Bible.

So, again, this has specific fulfillment in 1998. The "cry" that went out that the messiah had arrived was at the end of the "12th hour" (1991-1998), and that is when a division among the elect in the WTS took place, with half of them seeing I must be the messiah and the other half not paying any attention and not showing any real interest in chronology or anything else past what the WTS was providing them. As a result, they end up arriving too late at the banquet/wedding feast and their seats are taken. That is what is going on right NOW.
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Basically, a dumpster was pointed out to me by a JIOR (secret society) member and I understood I was to go get into that dumpster at midnight. That is, I was to leave my motel room exactly at midnight on Christmas Eve.


Lars your description of the 'event' leaves me with many questions, not least, about where and who from you got the above directions? I'm presuming that some humans in this secret society made these arrangements? It all sounds very physical and orchestrated if you don't mind me saying, with a lot of human input, and it didn't appear to go perfectly to plan either.
You see what resonates with me is that in my dealings with Jah and his son, the physical surroundings/issues have no part to play, no other human needs to be involved. All contact is personal and internal between me and them. It's true that others are similarly moved by holy spirit and do resonate with mine and sharing takes place, but Jah doesn't need external stuff to speak to my heart so that I know the course to which he has called me. The anointing teaches me continually too so that I don't have to have a group or society confirm who I am. That to me would be a poor substitute for the witness of my spirit.
As well as that when the holy spirit is working then things go absolutely PERFECTLY. How perfectly things happen is astounding, and that brings its own assurances. Never have I had to wander around wondering in distress over anything spiritual, I am kept safe and loved and comforted. And these I believe to be identifiers of Jah and his son.
I'm not trying to mock or argue here, just to respond to you truthfully.

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Hello Loz. Thanks for that feedback. I would immediately point out here that the "two witnesses" are involved. The prophesy for 42 months prior to the 2nd coming and then the UN kills them. They remain dead BUT NOT BURIED for 3.5 days. At the end of 3.5 days they are called up to heaven, which means Christ has become king and Satan was been kicked out of heaven. It means the 2nd coming has occurred.

Now I've addressed this as well for myself. That is, everything could have been directed by holy spirit. Easy. But it seems God's plan for me to not rely upon that 100% but to see that others are involved. That brings us to what the Ethipian eunuch was reading that must be fulfilled by him. Here it is:

ACTS 8:31 ” And he entreated Philip to get on and sit down with him. 32 Now the passage of Scripture that he was reading aloud was this: “As a sheep he was brought to the slaughter, and as a lamb that is voiceless before its shearer, so he does not open his mouth. 33 During his humiliation the judgment was taken away from him. Who will tell the details of his generation? Because his life is taken away from the earth.”

So the Ethiopian eunuch was reading about a lamb that was voiceless before those who would kill him. That was interpreted as something specific to be fulfilled by the Ethiopian eunuch at the 2nd coming. This meant there would be a public display of his mock death, so that others would see he was faithful until death. But what public situation in the modern world could be created that was potentially deadly and in which the messiah would remain silent, confirming he was ready to die?

Well, this had to be arranged by the JIOR, the "two witnesses." What they set up was for me to be dumped into one of those over-the-cab dump trucks, where the trash is compacted by a huge wall in the middle of the truck. Sometimes homeless people hide in dumpsters to stay warm and they ended up getting killed if not seen by the trash men. But anyone in the cab could hear someone pounding on the wall and crying out within the trash compartment, at which point they would stop the compression process. But that is what had to be set up by THEM.

So I was led by a child on a bike to where I was supposed to go. I spent the night in a dumpster behind a movie theater and was instructed to hide in another nearby dumpster that morning. Then the trash men came. They saw me in the dumpster! But they dumped me into the middle of the trash compartment anyway. It was a 2-story drop! I could have gotten hurt. In fact, I did scape my leg superficially. Then the compacting wall started to close in on me. I'm sure they were waiting to have the laugh of their lives when I suddenly changed my "death wish" and started screaming my head off. But Jehovah told me to remain silent. So I did. I didn't think my mission was over yet, but if so, sobeit, because at that point I knew God was real, alive, and that I was definitely going to heaven. Well the compacting wall continued to close in on me and I really didn't know if I was going to die or not. Maybe these were all of Satan's agents and this was how they planned to kill me and that was that.

But the compacting wall stopped just before crushing me and a trashman climbed up the side of the dump truck and told me to get out. I had my laptop in a brief case so I climbed down in front of about 4 trashmen who were speechless. Their moves were dropped and they looked like they had a shot of novacaine! I was somewhat embarrassed but just climbed down and left the scene. I know they thought they were seeing someone who apparently wanted to commit suicide.

I didn't realize how this factored into the prophecy regarding this in connection with the Ethiopian eunuch and Isa 53. But in retrospect, it made perfect sense. That was a public display that I had symbolically died and that I was willing to follow holy spirit instruction to the death. Of course, the reason for me willingly being dumped into the trash compacter in the first place was because I was told I had to try to escape and that inside I'd find a trap door where I could hide. So I thought this was an escape process. I didn't know I'd be tested to see if I would obey Jehovah's instructions or not. I was sort of traumatized by that later. Now when the trash man comes to pick up the trash, I stay inside!!! (ROFL! Not quite that bad...)

Point being, there were things that had to be arranged and coordinated to fulfill these prophecies and others had to do it. In the end, if I were just left with my own memory, which can be subjective, I might have questioned my own mind. That's only natural. After all, it's possible my own mind is deceiving me; hypnosis? drugs? But by events clearly needing the participation and witness of others, I can't go that route. It's too much of a coincidence that that compression event took place and that it just happens to fulfill that specific reference for the Ethiopian eunuch. Plus I did actually "die" in a sense, just as Abraham killed Isaac symbolically.

I didn't really care about dying since I knew I would go to heaven. But I did flash just once in total horror and sadness that if I did die in that dump truck, with no trace left of what happened to me, my parents would have been so devastated. They were already frantic because I had given all my possessions away. I turned my apartment over to my daughter and signed the car over to her, everything. I was going to leave without a trace. The assembly was that weekend and my mother attended. She's the zealous one. But my father, worried to death, combed the city looking for my dead body in allies and wherever he thought he could find me. They knew something was terribly wrong and I guess thought that I was depressed or something and about to kill myself. I'm not sure. But the thought that they would never know what happened to me tore me up. Even so, there were higher-purpose things going on.

But at this point, symbolically, having already died and given up my own life to the service of Jehovah, that allowed Christ to use my body and identity for the sake of the second coming and for his being in the flesh for the 1000-year reign. So by his coming down to inhabit my body, he in that sense, resurrected me back to life.

Even so, the clear interaction and coordination of everything with others, made this seem more real and prevents me from second-guessing my own mind. That is, I remember visually being shown which dumpster to get into. When I got there, things were waiting for me, like a new cardboard box to put my clothes in. There was a bucket for me to sit down on so I could change; and there was an item from the real estate office that I had thrown away which clearly was retrieved and then put into that dumpster to assure me that this was no accident and that others were involved.

BTW, the Bible itself notes in the prophecy about the 2nd coming, how Satan tries to destroy the child given birth to by the woman. Now Satan is cast down to the earth at this time, so this woman represents Christ's followers. But her place is in the "wilderness" which means she worships in secret. She is made up of a lot of secret, underground societies. The "two witnesses" are two of those secret organizations! As far as things going perfectly, God sometimes allows interruptions. In this case, God does allow the UN (which the WTS was a new member at this time!) to kill the two witnesses! Now that doesn't sound like things going well. But they are only killed for 3.5 days. That means they interrupt the 2nd coming for the 21st but it occurred 3.5 days later on the 25th. This was also prophesied! So thinking if things are done by God it always goes "perfectly" isn't always the case. The 2nd coming was "successful" but it was interrupted, but only by God's permission. And there are consequences. President Fred Franz was killed the next day, December 22nd.

But when you factor in the chronology, which is absolute at this point, requiring Christ to arrive between November 30, 1992 and April 6, 1993 (sorry, non-negotiable), then I have to accept I must be the Christ of the Bible. And I am, especially in connection with the WTS, because Lazarus torments the rich man (WTS) by all of his knowledge and his exposure of their false teachings! That's definite. I definitely have more truth than the WTS! They know this. They recognize this must be holy spirit. They would like some relief, for me to bring a drop of water to cool their tongue, but that's not Jehovah's arrangement. Right now, the WTS has been cast out and cast into spiritual darkness. Instead, I have all the light. What was low has not been made high, and what was once high has become low!
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Good morning Lars and thank you for responding to my question.



I have to say that I do no agree with probably most of what you are sharing here. But this the beauty of NOT being in the WTBS. We can do that, shake hands and still have love for one another.

I have to admit you are very caught up with "physical" as to your looks and the place you say you will reign during the 1,000. As the flesh is what at least to me is something that gets in my way from hearing at times I have to admit I cannot fall into this trap with you.

I must keep my vision on "The Christ" that I KNOW has revealed himself to me and the spirit of him that dwells in me.

As to the virgin parable, that is yet to be fulfilled as i know our lord has not returned to gather His body yet. I understand you do not agree, okay then.

I also know the virgins can not be the annointed from the WT and you should know this way more than me in that they are "harlots" as they are professing to be in a covenant with Jah as their husbandly owner and yet prostituting themselves with the kings of the earth. Not remaining chaste to their husband and head Christ. I agree they have heard "the calling"(by eating and drinking) to come out and follow the fine shephard. But they have not come out therefore they have not "quit touching the unclean thing" so that Jah can take them in as sons and daughters. So they remain illigitimate sons.
They are proving at least to this point that they are but I know things can change over night as Jah shows mercy to whom he wants.

I appreciate your passion in what you do believe but I understand the fulfillment of Matthew 24:4-5 "Look out that nobody misleads you. MANY will come on the basis of my name saying they are "The Christ" as will mislead many." But do not go after them.

I wish you peace and love
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I have to concede that Lars' view of himself and of how God has spoken to him is just as valid as everyone else's experience here. I'm sure he KNOWS and FEELS the Holy Spirit IN HIM with an equal amount of conviction as everyone else.

Matthew 24:5-5 also applies to those who CLAIM to LISTEN and to HEAR God speaking to them. Those amongst us who go to God with questions and receive UNDERSTANDING and possibly new perspectives can also be tricked and be MISLED. We all have to remember that others view us here as some view Lars.

I am sure that Lars knows quite well that some people think he's loony lol As to who is right and who is wrong. It's possible that everyone is correct and that each HEARS The Lord in their own ways. As has been said many times in this forum. The gift is FREE for those who LISTEN!!! In the real world a free gift often has strings attached so be wary ;D
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