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Last Saurday night/Sunday morning a dear friend of mine died in her sleep. She was only 48. She was lovely, kind, loyal and caring. She stood by me after my disfellowshipping and whilst I faced cancer, when I had no one, during my darkest days. She left 3, (almost) adult children. Much of her life was saddened by the loss of her own mother and so, after hearing about her death and dealing with the shock, I asked our Lord to help me to understand about death more fully, with its incumbent grief.

He directed me to this thread. How wonderful is that.

Peace and love to you all, thank you for sharing as you heard.

Loz x

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"This is my son. LISTEN to Him!"

I have just been directed to read Revelation 22:3 which begins:

'No longer will there be any curse.....'



Loz x

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"This is my son. LISTEN to Him!"

Hello and peace to you my sister,

Yes, when there is no longer a curse, there is no longer death! This is the beautiful fulfillment we have to look forward to in Revelation 22.

I am so sorry for your loss. Even with the hope we have and the truth we have come to realize, death truly " stings." May you and her family be comforted from our Lord during this time.

This thread has truly been comforting to understand more fully that Jah could not have been the one to hand over all of creation to the entity "Death."

Jah does not desire any to be destroyed as 2 Peter tells us.

He tells us to CHOOSE life! How could a God that IS LOVE wanting us to choose life for ourselves want this for mankind and yet be the one responsible for handing us over to death?

This seems hypocritical and this is impossible of Jah.

Thank you for sharing, love your sister and fellow slave of our Lord Jaheshua, Kim

He directed me to this thread. How wonderful is that.

So wonderful, Loz. I am so glad you were able to find some understanding and comfort in what the Spirit has taught us, over the loss of your friend.




No longer be ANY curse. Yes!


Not even over the 'crops', as my Lord directed me to post that part of those verses also.

"On each side of the river stood the tree of life, bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for healing of the nations."


Peace to you Loz,
your servant and sister and fellow slave of Christ,
tammy

Brothers and Sisters, may you ALL have Peace.

Note:

1 Corinthians 15:

21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23 But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

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35 But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” 36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39 Not all flesh is the same: People have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40 There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41 The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.

42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.

If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47 The first man was of the dust of the earth; the second man is of heaven. 48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the heavenly man, so also are those who are of heaven. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the earthly man, so shall we bear the image of the heavenly man.

50 I declare to you, brothers and sisters, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: “Death has been swallowed up in victory.”


55 “Where, O death, is your victory?
Where, O death, is your sting?”[i]

56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

58 Therefore, my dear brothers and sisters, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.


Come! Take Life's Water FREE!!!

--Armand

Picture, if you will, "in your minds' eyes" (sorry, I couldn't resist - LOL! and peace to you ALL!):

We always see, in movies, etc., perhaps, "Death" (in the form of "The Grim Reaper", etc.), passing through. In contrast to, say, "Midas," as "Death" passes... everything in its... HIS... wake... dies. Humans, animals, birds, plants... bacteria... protozoa...

It all dies. Dries up, withers... NO water... or life. At all.

Now, picture, if you will... "Life" passing by all that is dead or dying. We know WHO the Life is. Now picture that One: in the World of the Dead. When, as I shared with you, the spirits there woke up, albeit barely. And they woke... NOT because he commanded them, but JUST BECAUSE HE WAS THERE. Just his PRESENCE... brought LIFE, albeit a tiny bit... to that place!

Now, picture, if you will... can... him walking through the streets of Jerusalem. And the woman with the flow of blood saying to herself, "If I just touch his CLOTHES, I WILL be healed." Mark 5:28 Not HIM, but his CLOTHES.

THAT, dear ones... is how the FIRST resurrection occurs. How it MUST occur. IF, JUST BY HIS PRESENCE, he was able to bring a bit of life to those in the World of the Dead... or heal the sicknesses, even raise from early death, those (still) in THIS world... IMAGINE, if you can... what his presence will do when he RETURNS!

THEN... he will come with the power... ALL AUTHORITY... of both the spirit realm, THIS realm, AND the World of the Dead! As well as the place "under the altar"! BUT... he will also be able to control that power. His presence will raise the dead who are IN UNION WITH HIM... as well as transfigure (TO ETERNAL LIFE!) those who are in union with him but have not died!

It will "cure" the nations, those who come into the beloved City... to feed off HIM (as Death has fed off all physical life!).

And eventually, his life... the life force in him and that he IS... will be used to raise "the rest of the dead" in the general resurrection! THAT, dear ones, is the SAME life force used... to bring ALL creation into existence!

"Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life..." John 1:3, 4a

"For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together." Colossians 1:16, 17

You all may recall where I shared that our dear Lord is like the "mother dough" of sourdough bread: the baker STARTS with a little piece from the "mother dough" to make EACH subsequent "batch." And so ALL loaves, buns, etc., that come after have a piece of the original dough in them. Hence, "evolution" - why there are the common DNA, cells, etc., some shared more so, some less so... but ALL having at least that ONE common cell/DNA. A least a piece of the "dough."

The mother (or starter) dough, however, keeps regenerating itself so long as main ingredients are replenished. The Boudin Bakery in San Francisco for example, has used the same starter dough for over 150 years. For bread dough, the main ingredients are wheat flour (the catalyst)... water (the activator)... and yeast (or some other leavening agent) to make the loaf rise or "grow."

For Christ, the main ingredients are... his spirit body (the catalyst)... holy spirit ("water" of life, the activator)... and love (the leavening agent)... to make his body... the BREAD... MANNA... RISE... or "GROW":

I know, I know... sounds like I'm rattling. Sorry, but I'm at work and trying to get this out but not get caught - LOLOL! I hope you can "see" what I am trying to share. I can see it and... WOWEEE... GREAT STUFF! May YOU be given eyes to do so, too, and EARS, if you need them... to hear when he, the Spirit, and his Bride say to YOU:

COME! TAKE Life's... Christ's... ("MY") water, the holy spirit of God, the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies... which water comes to US... ONLY from the innermost parts of His Son and Christ, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... FREE!"

Woweeee... GREAT stuff!

Peace to you ALL and to your dear, dear households!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shel

I just asked whether our dear Lord himself was the "womb" of "Sarah" (peace to you all!), due to the words, "In him..."

My dear Lord's reply was that no, he was not Sarah - he came OUT of Sarah. BUT... he "IS" part of the most sacred "place" in HER. He, being the "Holy" and the Father, the "MOST Holy."

Now, wrap your head around THAT. If you have trouble, maybe this will help:

"I did not see a temple in the city, because the JaHVeH Almighty and the Lamb are its temple." Revelation 21:22

But wait...

"Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?" 1 Corinthians 3:16

Say, what, now? Say... we are a temple, within a temple... and there is a temple... within the temple... that we are.

Which is how the womb of the Woman Sarah, the spirit realm... is inside of JAH... yet, JAH resides... "in" the spirit realm.

SO COOL!

Peace!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shel

Reminded me of another passage that I just read:

And this is the witness, that God gave us everlasting life, and this life is in his Son. The one who has the Son has this life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have this life.
- 1 John 5:11,12

And yet, dear AGuest, was not the physical representation of the temple in Jerusalem . . . a temple within a temple? The temple grounds consisting of the various courtyards (of Gentiles, of women, of priests), then the courtyard outside the Holy, connected to the Most Holy, ALL OF IT BEING "The Temple"? Most interesting. . . .

--Armand

I must say.......

Yes! Wayyyy cool!

Jah and Christ are wonderful. The stuff they allow us to see and hear.....

Thank you! May ALL praise and glory go to Jah and His Son!
And may all who are thirsting and hungering as we are, those of His body Come, take lifeswater free!

It is LIFE!!!

Peace to you all, your sister in Christ, Kim

Well, you just know I have to ask this question: What about Genesis 5:29, which states

Now he called his name Noah, saying, "This one will give us rest from our work and from the toil of our hands arising from the ground which the LORD has cursed."

It certainly makes it sound there that the writer thought the Lord cursed it, unless that had to do with some OTHER curse not written about. I don't know, just trying to figure it out. I've asked, but not heard.

Ataloa, think of that in the same way that it was written that God struck Uzzah down for touching the ark. Men attributed that to God once Uzzah touched the ark and died. But God did not Himself strike Uzzah down.

So the writer (or a scribe from later when copying and/or translating) wrote or translated/transcribed that error into the account, due to their own error/misunderstanding.


Peace to you,
your servant and sister and a slave of Christ,
tammy

I have to agree with dear tec, somewhat, dear At (peace to you, both!). I do so because of what dear FinalCall (peace, luv!) posted above:

“Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’ “Cursed is the ground because of you;"

That and the verse that says "Let GOD be found TRUE though every MAN a liar." What I mean is that per above, JAH said the ground was cursed BECAUSE of Adham. And not that HE cursed it. But how can it be that JAH is attributed with cursing the ground, yet He gave responsibility for that to Adham? Well, you KNOW I had to ask when I read the verse you quoted and, PRAISE JAH... our dear Lord answered!

He said,

"Would the Father have actually thrust out His hand and TOUCHED the earth so that it was cursed, child?"

In order for me to answer that I had to look at my Lord and what HE would do... to know what the FATHER would do. And remember, the earth was "GOOD." So why would JAH thrust out HIS hand against a GOOD thing (the earth)... simply because one yahoo did wrong? And the answer is, of course, that JAH would NOT have done that. But then, what of the verse?

He then asked me, "What does it mean to be BLESSED by the Father, child? Does it not mean to have His spirit?"

Well, you know I had to answer, "Yes, Lord!"

He then asked me, "What then, would it mean for something to be CURSED? Does the Father have to do something TO something for it to be cursed?"

And as I considered this... the answer... the TRUTH... was given me:

What DOES it mean for something to be "cursed"? Does it not mean that it does not have LIFE? And in that sense, is not everything that is SEPARATE(D) from JAH... CURSED? Does HE, though, do the separating? Or... it is not the one, the thing, that separates ITSELF... the cause of the "curse"?

And so, when Adham turned EVERYTHING that was in HIS "domain"... ALL that been given HIM... over to Death... he, in essence, SEPARATED... EVERYTHING... from JAH. RENDERING IT CURSED... because it no longer had LIFE. It was delivered to DEATH. JAH, though, did not do the delivering; Adham did.

JAH HAD to withdraw. Because what He had given ADHAM... ADHAM gave to someone JAH could NOT have a "yoking" with. Could NOT. Because "What sharing does LIGHT... HAVE... with DARKNESS?" It would have been an UNEVEN "yoking." And so, JAH had to withdraw. And in doing so, had to take life WITH Him... leaving the ground cursed.

And so that Adham could not get back IN... and try to JOIN the two... Light with Darkness... the cherubs were placed. Light and Darkness will ALWAYS be enemies. They will NEVER have a sharing. EVER. It is either or the other. Which is why Adham was driven out. He HAD to be. Because what he became was of the Darkness... and where there is LIGHT, i.e., in the "Garden"... there is NO DARKNESS. CANNOT be.

The ground was cursed BECAUSE of Adham... BECAUSE what he did REQUIRED JAH to remove His spirit: LIFE. HAD Adham stepped up: told the truth, apologized, repented, offered himself for Eve... ANYTHING that would have shown LOVE... there would have been no separation. Because love COVERS a "multitude" of errors. Adham's error would have covered and forgiven. Because of JAH's love. Which would have driven the DARKNESS... back OUT.

Instead, Adham showed his LACK of love: his disobedience, his throwing his wife under the bus, his blaming JAH FOR that wife, and his selling of his entire domain. NONE of that shows love. To the contrary, it shows selfishness, haughtiness, greed, hatred, and more.

That is what I, the servant of JAH, received from His Son, my dear Lord, the HOLY One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah) and have shared with you here, as I received it.

Before I end, I need to share this:

The fig tree that many believe our dear Lord cursed. He did not. Rather, when the tree did not produce fruit for HIM... he simply WITHDREW HIS SPIRIT... LIFE... from IT. Recall the vision of the Grim Reaper "passing by" I shared above. Recall also (if you remember), my vision of the Master appearing to me "as he truly is" and me being frightened but not able to run, thinking "he" was going to open his jaws and bite me in two, and him saying, in essence, that if he wanted to "kill" me, all he had to do was inhale. Or... withdraw his spirit. Not do something TO me. Hit me, bite me, shoot me, stab me... cause me pain. But simple take HIS "breath" BACK. That is what HE did as to the fig tree... withdrew from IT. And that is what JAH did, as to the physical realm... once Adham turned it over to Death. He withdrew His spirit. Life.

Life... is a GIFT. And one that CAN be withdrawn. And, in some instances, MUST be. The situation with Adham dictated such a withdrawal. Light can have no sharing with Darkness. Cannot.

I hope this helps, dear 'At. Peace to you... and your dear household!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shel

That all makes sense... so much sense. So I will just add my 'amen' to what you were given to share, because my spirit bears witness to this truth.


Peace to you,
your sister and servant, and fellow slave of Christ,
tammy

Peace!

How do we “know” that if Adam had repented of his sin that he would have been forgiven for it? (Sometimes we have so much baggage from having been Jws.) Anyway, we KNOW because of what Christ said in one of his parables. The Parable of the Prodigal Son.

There in that parable, we are told by Christ of a father’s love for his prodigal son. Was not Adam a “Son of God”? Was not Adam prodigal? And yet, what did it take for the father’s love to abound? In the parable the father saw the son returning from afar off in the distance. What did the father do on seeing the returning son? Did the father wait until the son arrived? (Tapping his foot with his arms crossed over his chest?) No! Upon seeing his prodigal afar off, he ran TOWARD his son, met up with him, and EMBRACED him, KISSING him, welcoming him home, and requested of his other servants to prepare a great feast. Why? Because the son who had “died,” returned, and had come to “life.”

Would not Jah have done the same thing toward Adam if Adam had repented and RETURNED to his father, Jah? Of course, he would have. IN THE PARABLE, Christ says so.