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I have two main questions one about what the intended meaning of the word is and secondly the interaction of the heart with the spirit and conscience
JAH is
GOOD, dear Summer (peace to you!). I say that because I used to contemplate this very issue, too, once - the "difference," if any, between the "heart" and the "conscience," and so am grateful that perhaps we both might now know.
I do appreciate dear 'Mom's (peace, luv!) comments, that:
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it is not the physical anything that he is concerned with, it is my motives and intentions of my heart and why it needs to be cleansed and remain clean so that it can house His spirit, which IS Him to dwell.
... as well as dear Tec's (peace to you, as well, luv!) comment that:
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this would be the spirit, the person we truly are on the inside.
Both comments are true. I never actually
asked about this issue, though, the heart/conscience and whether they were the same or different, until your question. Even then, I did not actually ask, but as I read your question, the question I once had came up again in ME. And this time, I KNEW it would be answered. It was another two days, though, before I received a response to MY question (which seems to me to be the same one you are asking) and the following is the essence of what I received from my Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJAH). I say "essence," because the conversation we had was much more in-depth but I am not able to recount all of it nor is it necessary for me to do so. What he gave me was:
The "conscience" is not what most consider the "ego" but is what we are aware of as to ourselves. what we [think we] "know" [about ourselves]. It is the conscience that [personally]
accuses or
excuses us... as to what we say or do, or do not say or do. Because of our "fallen" state (as flesh with IT'S blood, versus flesh with holy spirit, GOD's blood). however, and so our penchant to live OUTSIDE of [the] TRUTH, what we [think we] know [about ourselves] may or may not be
true. Thus, our conscience... and what it "tells" us, it's accusing or excusing (of our words/actions, or lack thereof)... may or may not be accurate (trutthful).
The "heart" is something else altogether. It controls the WHY of ALL that we say and/or do (or don't say or do). It is not merely a "seat" of "motivation"; it is the SOURCE of our motivation. The "place" from which whatever it is that drove us to say/do (or NOT say.do) whatever it is we said/did (or didn't say/do) originated. Whatever is in our
heart dictates
WHY... we SAY what we say WHATEVER it is we SAY (i.e., what comes/does not come out of our mouths - )
Matthew 12:34; 16:18; Luke 6:45)... and/or WHATEVER it is we DO... or do NOT do.
The heart is the motiva
TOR - we
say/do... or
refrain from saying/doing... because of what's IN it. Which is why we
must "GUARD" it. Not because it might be "broken" (by something someone ELSE said/did or did not say.do) but because of what it might motivate... MOVE...
US... to SAY... OR do. Or NOT say or do.
For example, while Eve was deceived, it was what was IN Adham's heart that caused him to CHOOSE to do what he did, willingly. Or, in contrast, it is what is in the heart that causes US to obey... or not obey (i.e., "do")... what Christ tells us to do/not do. The heart IS treacherous. Not ALL the time, true, but it really only takes one act of treachery to make something "treacherous," yes? And so, what of those who, for example, SAY they love Christ... and yet, their HEART leads them to do things AGAINST him (for example, the treatment of US slaves by religious clergy in previous centuries)... while their CONSCIENCE excuses such conduct? Or, even simpler,
saying one loves Christ, but not DOING what he SAYS... because of "something" in one's heart, which "something" the one's conscience excuses?
It is treacherous and so can turn on one in an instant. Peter's did, when he
denied Christ, although loving him. His denial was based on his FEAR... which was in his HEART. Do you see? Because of the treachery of the heart, we are told to "guard" it. Meaning, guard what goes IN it, as well as what comes OUT of it. We are also told to "CLEANSE" it - but out CONSCIENCE, again, in IT's function of "excusing" can (mis)lead us to ignore the treachery of our heart, tell us that what our heart is leading us to do is "okay."
And so, those of his Body need Christ to teach and lead us as our own heart will seek our own desires, not his/God's.
That is the essence of what he shared with me on this matter. I also understood that the heart is NOT the spirit, per se. Because although spirit may be WILLING (for example, Peter may not have WANTED to deny Christ)... the FLESH is weak. And so the FEAR in Peter's heart... which was as to the preservation of his FLESH... turned him traitor... so that he denied even one he
loved, Christ. His HEART showed itself treacherous... to preserve his FLESH alive. His heart not only betrayed HIM... but the Son of GOD!! And Peter's conscience knew it... and accused him; hence, his weeping.
The flesh and the spirit are ENEMIES, though, and so the "heart"
cannot be as some may think, at least as the following states:
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"... the centre of all physical and spiritual life
the vigour and sense of physical life
the centre and seat of spiritual life"
That definition denotes the heart being something to both (the physical and spiritual) at the same time. This is impossible because the FLESH... is of NO use, at ALL. It is the SPIRIT that is life. The HEART, then, belongs FIRST... to the FLESH. It will seek the WILL of the flesh...
until we have it "made over." We can't really do that, though, make over our hearts. We can, to a very small extent, change SOME things, but to make the heart over FULLY and COMPLETELY... such that it
becomes the "heart" of the SPIRIT... we need to replace the "blood" that flows through it with GOD's "blood" - holy spirit. We get that, first, through the acceptance and receipt of the blood of Christ, God's holy spirit that flows in and through HIM. We allow him to "replace" OUR "blood" and "heart" with HIS... which he does by giving us HIS "mind"... or "heart." What motivates HIM. Thus, we receive, possess, and say/do... or not say/do... HIS will. Then, it is no longer a heart of "flesh" (not meaning the physical organ, of course) but one of spirit.
I want to share with you the example of the "heart" and "conscience" of two different women, but with similar circumstances: Rahab and Mary the Magdalene. Both were prostitutes and most likely were for the same reason: families to care for. This what the "why" of what they did... what their "hearts" TOLD them to do, even if doing so was "wrong." And that is what JAH considered when dealing with both: He looked at their HEARTS, the WHY of what they were doing... and because what they were doing was out of LOVE (caring for family), their errors were (temporarily) ignored. Both, then, could be blessed, not with the preservation of flesh/spirit; that came later)... by even being used/called/recognized BEFORE they received the blessing that preserved them further (which blessings were due to their FAITH - but it was what was in their HEARTS that even "opened the way" for the latter).
These two women, however, although the same in occupation, were very different in their VIEW of that occupation. For Rahab, HER conscience EXCUSED her for her line of work (she wasn't an Israelite, wasn't under Law, and therefore did what she did with no reservations or feelings of shame). Mary, on the other hand, was ACCUSED by
her conscience - she was ashamed and burdened, so much so she succumbed to "demons" which tortured her (spirit), because HER conscience CONDEMNED her. Which is why SHE was SO grateful to Christ, why she wept when near him, washed his feet with her tears, never left him, even when he was impaled, etc. Because he openly FORGAVE her... and set her FREE from (the condemnation) of her conscience. She no longer NEEDED to feel shame, but could now "stand" (albeit, still humbled) before the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies. No matter what MAN, humans... men AND women... thought of her, she KNEW... GOD loved her. And that she, too, could "enter" into the kingdom of God/the spirit realm ("heavens").
It was because of what was in these two women's HEART... that led the Spirit to first
seek and find THEM... as WELL as for them to [allow themselves to]
BE sought and found. Had they been women with "hardened" hearts... then the Spirit that eventually MOVED them (to hide the spies... recognize Christ [as the Son of God] when he presented himself to Israel, etc.)... could not have come IN (to their hearts) and so MOVED/LED them (to do what they did).
So, then, the "heart" is what drives the "why" of what we say/do (or not say/do)... while the "conscience" excuses or accuses what we say/do (or not say/do). Both Rahab and Mary did what they did... out of love. For the families they had to care for. One's conscience excused her; the other's accused her.
I hope this helps. Please also note, Romans 9:1, 2 are not the only verses regarding the "function" of the "heart." An online Bible search will show that there is a plethora of scriptures and verses written as to the heart. A review of these can help show one WHY it is necessary to guard, cleanse, and prepare the heart.
Again, peace to you, and thank you for bringing this matter up. Again, I used to wonder, as well, and so am grateful for the truth revealed to ME about it.
Your servant and a slave of Christ,
Shel