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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:44 pm 
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No worries, dear tec (peace to you, dear one!). I am not really "bothered." I am beginning to get weirded out, though, by the proclamations and claims that seem eerily close to things I have shared over the years but from a different direction. For example, as you are aware I have shared that I am an literal Israelite, a direct daughter of Abraham, from the tribe of BenJahMin... and so a Jew... as well as posted about a lost tribe of "Judah" that my Lord revealed were my people, as well as that I am a Cushite-ess (and so recently privileged to visit the land of my ancestors for a special assignment)... and now, surprise... am "touching the eyeball" of a [bona fide] Israelite.

Then we have the declaration as to all Israel being saved. As they all WILL be. As we have always stated.

I am beginning to understand, now, though, how some folks' belief systems "develop" (although, now that I think on it, it has been openly admitted that that IS how it has been occurring - take a little from here, add a little from there - although I am sure that has been forgotten and will now be denied)...

But I do think, given the current topic (Israel), the essay in the following link might help some (any who want to know the TRUTH) perhaps understand a little bit better (or maybe not) what the catalyst for the current situation in the region REALLY is... because I truly have no illwill against anyone and really DON'T want any to continue in FULL ignorance (well, any ignorance, but certainly not a LOT of it):

http://www.politicalarticles.net/blog/2 ... palestine/

Given all of the posturing about eyeballs being "touched", one would think that Germany, England, Poland, Austria, Hungary, Russia, the U.S., the Leage of Nations... and perhaps others... would be on the list. You know, besides little ol' us. But, well, goodness... that someone considers little ol' US to be responsible for persecuting Israel... how small their world must truly be.

Peace, chile'... and I know you see (and remember) the development of the particular "faith." Looking back on it, certain susceptibilities loudly evidenced that it was inevitable. S'why I steered clear to begin with - too much "wandering," no real foundation, trying on this, then trying on that... and, now, voila, a self-made "faith." Baked up all nice and "substantial" looking, and very "filling."

Well, so is fruitcake. And anyone who's surprised hasn't been paying attention.

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No worries, dear tec (peace to you, dear one!). I am not really "bothered." I am beginning to get weirded out, though, by the proclamations and claims that seem eerily close to things I have shared over the years but from a different direction. For example, as you are aware I have shared that I am an literal Israelite, a direct daughter of Abraham, from the tribe of BenJahMin... and so a Jew... as well as posted about a lost tribe of "Judah" that my Lord revealed were my people, as well as that I am a Cushite-ess (and so recently privileged to visit the land of my ancestors for a special assignment)... and now, surprise... am "touching the eyeball" of a [bona fide] Israelite.

Then we have the declaration as to all Israel being saved. As they all WILL be. As we have always stated.

I am beginning to understand, now, though, how some folks' belief systems "develop" (although, now that I think on it, it has been openly admitted that that IS how it has been occurring - take a little from here, add a little from there - although I am sure that has been forgotten and will now be denied)...


Yes. To all.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:19 pm 
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Sab says....


The deliverer will TAKE AWAY their sins. Israel has been sacked many times, but now humanity has the technology to scorch the land with nuclear fallout. Iran is at this very moment developing nuclear isotopes. They seek to validate their own religious work and a good way to do that would be to destroy the actual land of Israel. They see Israel as a fabricated government and want it gone for good. They are pressing on the eye of God and you, and your lord, stand by and do nothing. Stand behind me, deceiver.


Dear Sab....

REALLY????? Come on Sab, you have no idea what Jahs servants have or are doing on Israel's behalf. Please don't make this judgement call. This is ignorance on your behalf.



When she touches the apple of God's eye I am compelled to respond. Israel doesn't get the support they deserve. They are a good people and don't deserve to be abandoned by God. They were given back their land in 1948. We should respect that arrangement and see it for what it was. Forgiveness. Israel is in the light and the darkness creeps toward them from outside their borders. I stand with Israel as brothers and an ally. I suggest you all do the same.



Israel has always been Jahs special possession. He has never abandoned them. They have continually abandoned him. They reap the consequences of ultimately denying the one that Jah sent to save them!

But do you forget the promise held out in Romans 11: 25 &26...

Rom 11:25 " I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in,

Rom 11:26. and in this way [fn] all Israel will be saved. As it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.

Jah's mercy will prevail over justice.

Even if one loses his physical life now, there is the resurrection to life that is held out.

Sab, we understand what our lord is continually sharing with us, and your message is not one of HIS.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:52 pm 
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You're speaking to an American.


Apparently, so was King Abdullah of Jordan, in 1947:

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What would your answer be if some outside agency told you that you must accept in America many millions of utter strangers in your midst–enough to dominate your country–merely because they insisted on going to America, and because their forefathers had once lived there some 2,000 years ago?

Our answer is the same.

And what would be your action if, in spite of your refusal, this outside agency began forcing them on you?

Ours will be the same.


Wonder how many Americans "heard" him, then... and how many NOW would respond if what he said was occurring in Palestine THEN was occurring in American NOW? I think the many heated debates over immigration provides a response. A few, sure. One-third of our population, all at one time... due to an attempt at genocide by some folks in the EAST? Would never happen.

I hope those who need to read the article. Information is a good thing. TRUTHFUL information is even better.

http://www.politicalarticles.net/blog/2 ... lestine/#2

Peace. As Christ gives it... AND in the Middle East!

A slave of Christ,

Shellama, who is posting the link again... so that perhaps those who NEED to read don't "accidentally" miss it...


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:01 pm 
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Wonder how many Americans "heard" him, then... and how many NOW would respond if what he said was occurring in Palestine THEN was occurring in American NOW? I think the many heated debates over immigration provides a response. A few, sure. One-third of our population, all at one time... due to an attempt at genocide by some folks in the EAST? Would never happen.


So true!

The issue is another topic, but that article is VERY enlightening. If one cares to read it, then put themselves in the shoes of the Palestinians who also lost their land and their homes.


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One thing comes to MY mind, though (peace to you ALL!): it is really neither the Arab's OR the Jew's fault what occurred. Anyone who takes sides then, as to EITHER, might find themselves engaging of pitting brother against brother: Ishmael (Islam, along with those Arabic Israelites - 10-tribe kingdom of Israel - who may have joined with them) against Isaac (Jews - 2-tribe kingdom of Judah/BenJahMin)... if not Isaac against himself (those Arabic Israelites of the 10-tribe kingdom of Israel against the Jews of the 2-tribe kingdom of Judah/BenJahMin)... if not 10 of 12 Israelite brothers against the other two (which is what divided the kingdom of Israel in the first place).

The world governments) that fomented this travesty in the first place... are already culpable. Some might want to think twice before jumping on that train and "judging" one (or more) of these brothers over the other(s).

Rather, the ONLY position the Body of Christ could take (if one were to actively take a position) would be one that fomented peace between the two and came from a place of neutrality as to who's to blame. As love FOR one's brother... which they all actually ARE... would dictate.

Again, peace to you!

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The 'christian' nations might want to take a look at their role IN placing Israel in the midst of her 'enemies', and in causing the volatile situation that we have today. 'Christian' nations committed pogroms (state sanctioned violence) against the Jewish people... which came BEFORE the Holocaust; and then the Holocaust; and then the pograms and violence against the jewish people AFTER the holocaust who were trying to return to their homes.

None of that was the fault of either 'brother', and they ARE brothers... all sons of Abraham.

Never mind the attitude from the west that came afterward toward one brother or the other brother as BEING the problem in that and to the world, which just foments resentment and anger and injustice... or the promises made by governments to each brother, that were in conflict with one another.

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The world governments) that fomented this travesty in the first place... are already culpable. Some might want to think twice before jumping on that train and "judging" one (or more) of these brothers over the other(s).


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http://youtu.be/X6WHBO_Qc-Q

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And of course we know WHY the U.S. didn't want [anymore of] them (Jews): it was prior to the Civil Rights Movement of 1964, after all... and Jews didn't really get any more love than Negroes or homosexuals.

Information is good. TRUTH(ful information) is even better.

Peace... to all... AND in the Middle East!

A slave of Christ,

Shellama... who kinda feels like putting up her fist in the "Black Power" sign. Kinda. Well, not really. But maybe in a "Peace in the Middle East" or sumthin' sorta way...


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That essay by King Abdullah is amazing. He explains it in a very kind and fair way. I can't blame them for being upset about the Jews being forced on them when there are so many other places they could go. It's way overcrowded and the cultures clash with each other.

Shelby, you say you are a Isrealite? I can't figure out how to quote with my iPad so forgive me not referencing what you said exactly. I am curious how you know you are a direct descendant, did you research your ancestry? Amazing to have such ancestry for sure.

My daughter had genetic testing done a few months ago (just for curiosity) and found out that on our maternal side we have ancestry that is from the areas of either Egypt, Sudan, Turkey and possibly Somalia? My Mothers side is all from Germany and have been Caucasian Germans for centuries. Very unusual finding for sure. My Mom and I often thought that our ancestors were Italian or Spanish as my grandmother and her family were extremely dark. My maternal grandma had black eyes and pitch black hair and olive skin. She looked Arab or Arab Jewish or Spanish. Now that I know about the blood telling as to our ancestry it makes sense that we might have some exotic blood in us other than caucasion. A girl doesn't have all the XY Cromazobe so they can't test her for her Fathers side ancestry/genetics. I am positive my paternal side is mostly Nordic/Anglo but we would have to test my sons for that.


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I can't seem to correct my post above with my iPad grrrrr. It auto corrected my attempt to spell Chromosome.


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OFF TOPIC!!
I know this is off topic but this is the blood type genetics that i am supposed to have from my maternal side

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_T-M184


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Cromazobe sounds like some exotic alien chromosones, Zoe... interesting, interesting... :O g:)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:02 am 
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Actually, for real, that is really interesting Zoe.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:54 am 
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tec wrote:
Actually, for real, that is really interesting Zoe.

Peace,
tammy



I agree as well!

Thanks for sharing this ZOE.
Interesting that your daughter was so curious and then was able to give you some genetic background of your family roots.

That's way cool! 8)

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