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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:32 pm 
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TORNAPART SAID

Some of you will already know me from JWN. Loz gave me the invite to join here. Thanks Loz! I didn't know about this place.

A little about me. I'm a born in 2nd gen. Have an elderly mother and grown children. Husband has been an elder for over 25 years. I'm slowly fading and finding it very difficult at times. I would love to leave completely but at the moment it just isn't possible if I want to keep my family and keep the elders from asking too many questions. I need to keep under the radar for now.
I still love my God and His Son, they are everything to me. I hate the way Jesus has been usurped by the GB. It makes me heartsick!
I hope to get to know some of you a little better on here.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:32 pm 
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ATALOA SAID

Welcome Tornapart.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:33 pm 
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ZOE SAID

Welcome Tornapart

Oh I feel for you, what a difficult situation. I hope you can find comfort and support here, there is a lot of kind, patient loving people here who show the fruits of the spirit unlike the WT org.

Hugs from Zoe


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:33 pm 
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Welcome Tornapart...I think you will enjoy coming here, browsing around and making comments, or creating your own thread with a question, also a statment of how you believe. There will be NO snarky comments to whatever you post, perhaps disagreement, but no snarky here.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:33 pm 
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CHARIKLO SAID

Welcome, Tornapart! Lovely to have you here!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:33 pm 
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TEC SAID

Welcome Tornapart! Happy to see you here

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I hate the way Jesus has been usurped by the GB. It makes me heartsick!



I hear you. It makes my stomach churn; it is such a lie that they have set up in place of Him.


Peace to you, and again welcome,

tammy


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:34 pm 
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PTERIST SAID

Welcome TornApart..
I'm glad I'm no longer the new kid on the block...
PTERIST fron JWN
No personal attacks on this site
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:34 pm 
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Welcome, dear Tornapart... and peace to you! It greatly saddens us for those who aren't/weren't able to do and so either continue "touching the unclean thing"... or golden calf... that the WTBTS is... or have had their faith completely shipwrecked as a result of that harlot and her false prophets.

We REJOICE, then, when we become acquainted with another like us! Like you, most of us here, too, have also maintained our love for God and Christ... in spite of the attempts to usurp the "seat of Moses" by the "scribes and Pharisees"... particularly those of the WTBTS.

Please, pull up a chair and make yourself t'home! Perhaps you will find (some) refreshment for your spirit here; however, I am sure you know REAL refreshment comes only from Christ himself. We are merely his servants, of course; however, some of us have been granted holy spirit (and others are still seeking it and we've no doubt they too will receive it!) and so can offer a bit of relief for those who need it and find their way to this City (of Refuge). Our dear Lord directed us to "build" this place for that very reason and so we are glad you have found your way here.

Again, welcome and peace to you and yours!

YOUR servant, as I am servant to ALL those of the Household of God, Israel, and those who go with... and a slave of Christ,

SA


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Welcome Tornapart

Glad your here

Love justmom


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LOZ SAID

Ah, hello Torn, so glad you decided to join us. It's good to have you here with us!

Loz x
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:35 pm 
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Our dear Lord directed us to "build" this place

Really? I had not realized that.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:35 pm 
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Good morning, dear Ataloa (peae to you, dear one!)... and yes, indeed! I had thought there was a post about that here somewhere, but I can't locate it just now, but here's the thing:

Unfortunately, the inability to discuss God, Christ, faith, spirit, and related matters was becoming very great elsewhere (NOT due to the Admin, which was MOST accommodating of us!) due to a few fellow posters that just couldn't handle anyone still having faith after theirs became shipwrecked. Their manner of opposition was become more and more ugly and vicious so what to do? No one wanted to be run off by people who had no real authority but just wanted a place where anyone who wished to could discuss/declare their faith openly and not ALWAYS have to undergo unnecessary and unwarranted attack.

And then I heard to build a "city of refuge" which I discussed with several other dear ones here... where those who wanted to have open discussion about God/Christ/faith, etc. could "go" to do so, while not prohibiting others from questioning (which is what often occurs in the opposite - if it's not vicious and ad hominen attacks as TO faith, there is often similar opposition to those who question it on sites that are almost purely "religious" sites. We didn't want either... and nor does our Lord).

And so, voila! This place was created as that "city" for those who want to discuss these kinds of matters without being attacked, yet welcoming questions, debate, information, etc., from anyone, including those without faith and/or don't believe in God and/or Christ at all, so long as comments remain civil and decent (which is all we really ask). Because if one's faith IS accurate, then there really is no need to fear, oppose, or run from questionings, debates, etc., as one should be ABLE to provide a defense for their faith.

But there are those with strong faith, or just starting out with faith, or even no faith... who don't want to be subjected to snarky ridicule and malicious opposition ALL the time and so... here we are!

This is not and was not meant as a place a replacement for others sites for those who don't wish it to be, however. We are not an "exclusive" club nor do we demand exclusive loyalty; ALL are welcome here... and all HERE are encouraged to participate on other sites as they deem fit (who knows whose faith they might assist by doing so?). It is merely a "refuge" from the usual "We don't agree and so we MUST fight!" environment for those who wish that, as well as place to perhaps engage with like-minded, like-hearted, and certainly like-spirited folks.

And so... here we is!!

So, again, peace to you and we're SO glad you have joined us! LOLOLOL!

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

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CHARIKLO SAID

Very interesting to read your account of how this place came to be, Shelby!

That spoke to me!


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Tornapart, BIENVENIDA a este gran foro(WELCOME to this great forum)


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