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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:30 pm 
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zoe, glad you replied. i wish you better days.{{ warm toasty virtual hug}} don't worry bout the math regarding doug. some forgot all together :(

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:05 pm 
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If Doug were still around, I'd have pinged him and asked what he thought of this article. I did think the efforts and stories of the three different people (one Christian, one Jew, one Muslim, each born into very extreme sects/cults) were worth the read.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/a ... lief-faith
Losing my religion: life after extreme belief
Fleeing the grip of a sect can be a matter of life or death. Megan Phelps-Roper, and two other former believers, reveal how they lost almost everything when they lost their faith
Shahesta Shaitly
Sunday 10 April 2016 06.00 EDT


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Smile - I had reason to think of dear Doug the other day... and then here's this thread (peace to you all... and to you, dear jlsoaz! And welcome!). He really was the big brother I never had. And yet, he not only played the piano brilliantly, but from a point of genius, actually. Doug was a genius, for all intents and purposes, which was part of the "problem" - he was raise a JW (which was a huge strike against him from the get-go; the WTBTS has not use for people who can THINK... on their OWN... AND pretty damn good, too!) and so really faced a lot of challenges as to his intellect. Even from those who should have loved him "unconditionally." Those, in fact, were among the harshest. What that does to a man... and to a very smart man... well...

"They" say that "ignorance is bliss" and I think that, in some instances, that is true. I am sure dear Doug's life would have been much better had he been a run-of-the-mill (i.e., deaf, dumb, and blind WTBTS "company" man) JW. Alas, he wasn't. And he wasn't only not a WTBTS zombie, but had their number, at least as to their secular lies and shenanigans. And he knew folks. Personally. I remember his account of Judge Rutherford and that one's wimmen. Or one of the almighty gee-bee's escapades, having been close friends with that one's son/grandson/nephew (I forget which).

Dear jlsoaz, I'm not sure if anyone here mentioned it, but I think dear Doug's (and I can call him that, now - I remember him "losing it" on me, on JWN, when I posted his full name - although he had posted mine first - LOL!) revelations can still be found on that board. Someone here will have to share the link to it, though, in a PM, as we don't post links to other sites here, particularly those that prohibit posting of links to this site on their's. A common internet forum courtesy, let's call it - LOL!. Anyway, I no longer know for sure but it seems that someone (Lady Lee?) requested/did a forum room dedicated to Doug's posts on there. Check it out, if you get the link.

I am glad dear Doug is at peace now, to the extent sleep in death permits. He really needed it. He didn't rest much once he left the WTBTS... nor for most of his last years. Way too much... regret... poor thing. I'm not sure he warranted all of the regret he carried, but it was understandable that he did: if nothing else, the WTBTS taught us how to wallow in guilt, regret, and self-pity... while being angry at the God, Christ, the GB, our parents, children, friends, employers... neighbors... total strangers....

Understandable, but still, very hard to watch. Emaciated him spiritually, at first, and then in other ways in the end. I was SO mad at him for that... for not taking care of himself. He knew it, too. He also knew I loved him... greatly. And unconditionally.

I miss you, Doug. Take care... and see you soon, my dear, dear brother. And yes, we discussed that - I will see you. Peace to you.

And peace to you all!

A slave of Christ,

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Amen, Shel.


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