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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 3:35 am 
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Whilst researching something else I had cause to check out other translations of 1 Cor 12:2. I found it thrilling. Especially because some translate it SO literally and correctly, with no confusion of older English to get in the way. J

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American Standard Version
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (ASV) Ye know that when ye were Gentiles [ye were] led away unto those dumb idols, howsoever ye might led.

The Bible in Basic English
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (BBE) You are conscious that when you were Gentiles, in whatever way you were guided, you went after images without voice or power.

Common English Bible
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (CEB) You know that when you were Gentiles you were often misled by false gods that can't even speak.

Common English Bible w/ Apocrypha
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (CEBA) You know that when you were Gentiles you were often misled by false gods that can't even speak.

The Complete Jewish Bible
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (CJB) You know that when you were pagans, no matter how you felt you were being led, you were being led astray to idols, which can't speak at all.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (CSB) You know how, when you were pagans, you were led to dumb idols-being led astray.

The Darby Translation
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (DBY) Ye know that when ye were [of the] nations [ye were] led away to dumb idols, in whatever way ye might be led.

English Standard Version
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (ESV) You know that when you were pagans you were led astray to mute idols, however you were led.

Good News Translation
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (GNT) You know that while you were still heathen, you were led astray in many ways to the worship of lifeless idols.

Good News Translation w/ Apocrypha
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (GNTA) You know that while you were still heathen, you were led astray in many ways to the worship of lifeless idols.

GOD'S WORD Translation
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (GW) You know that when you were unbelievers, every time you were led to worship false gods you were worshiping gods who couldn't even speak.

Hebrew Names Version
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (HNV) You know that when you were heathen, you were led away to those mute idols, however you might be led.

Jubilee Bible 2000
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (JUB) Ye know that when ye were Gentiles, ye went, even as ye were led, unto the dumb idols.

King James Version
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (KJV) Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

King James Version w/ Apocrypha
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (KJVA) Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led .

Lexham English Bible
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (LEB) You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the speechless idols, however you were led.

The Message Bible
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (MSG) Remember how you were when you didn't know God, led from one phony god to another, never knowing what you were doing, just doing it because everybody else did it? It's different in this life. God wants us to use our intelligence, to seek to understand as well as we can.

New American Standard Bible
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (NAS) You know that when you were pagans, you were led astray to the mute idols, however you were led.

New Century Version
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (NCV) You know the way you lived before you were believers. You let yourselves be influenced and led away to worship idols -- things that could not speak.

New International Reader's Version
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (NIRV) You know that at one time you were unbelievers. You were somehow drawn away to worship statues of gods that couldn't even speak.

New International Version
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (NIV) You know that when you were pagans, somehow or other you were influenced and led astray to mute idols.

New King James Version
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (NKJV) You know that you were Gentiles, carried away to these dumb idols, however you were led.

New Living Translation
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (NLT) You know that when you were still pagans, you were led astray and swept along in worshiping speechless idols.

New Revised Standard
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (NRS) You know that when you were pagans, you were enticed and led astray to idols that could not speak.

New Revised Standard w/ Apocrypha
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (NRSA) You know that when you were pagans, you were enticed and led astray to idols that could not speak.

Orthodox Jewish Bible
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Kehillah in Corinth I 12:2 (OJB) You have da’as that when you WERE Goyim [T.N. i.e., you are no longer heathen pagans], somehow you were influenced and led astray to the ELILIM ILLEMIM ("Dumb idols, idols incapable of speech" CHABAKUK 2:18-19).

Douay-Rheims Catholic Bible,
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (RHE) You know that when you were heathens, you went to dumb idols, according as you were led.

Revised Standard Version
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (RSV) You know that when you were heathen, you were led astray to dumb idols, however you may have been moved.

Revised Standard Version w/ Apocrypha
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (RSVA) You know that when you were heathen, you were led astray to dumb idols, however you may have been moved.

SBL Greek New Testament
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (SBLG) οἴδατε ὅτι ὅτε ἔθνη ἦτε πρὸς τὰ εἴδωλα τὰ ἄφωνα ὡς ἂν ἤγεσθε ἀπαγόμενοι.

Third Millennium Bible
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (TMB) Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

Third Millennium Bible w/ Apocrypha
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (TMBA) Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

Tyndale
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (TYN) Ye knowe that ye were gentyls and went youre wayes vnto domme ydoles even as ye were ledde.

The Webster Bible
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (WBT) Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away to these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

World English Bible
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (WEB) You know that when you were heathen, you were led away to those mute idols, however you might be led.

Weymouth New Testament
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (WNT) You know that when you were heathens you went astray after dumb idols, wherever you happened to be led.

Wycliffe
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (WYC) For ye know, that when ye were heathen men, how ye were led going to dumb maumets. [Soothly ye know, for when ye were heathen men, as ye were led going to dumb simulacra.]

Young's Literal Translation
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1 Corinthians 12:2 (YLT) ye have known that ye were nations, unto the dumb idols -- as ye were led -- being carried away;



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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2018 10:32 pm 
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YES... dear, Loz (peace to you, dear, dear sister mine)!!!!!!! It is the DEAD and/or FALSE IDOLS that cannot speak! OUR dear Lord LIVES... raised FROM death! THAT IS THE POINT! THAT IS THE "GOOD" NEWS! THAT HE IS NOT DEAD BUT RAISED... AND OUR PROOF IS HIS VOICE (NOT his image)!

That is what we are to put faith IN... his VOICE... so as to HEAR - "walk BY faith"... IN HIS VOICE... and not by SIGHT... because he is, AGAIN, a SPIRIT and so UNseen (by our eyes). But he is NOT UNHEARD!!!

Oh, I am doin' a happy dance in my heart and spirit right now!!!

May I add Psalm 135:15-18 to your wonderful list?

Dear ones, the WTBTS told is this!! Only they put their "anointed" and "FDS" between us and that voice! And other religions put the Bible, the Torah, the Quran, the "Law" (Covenant), their leaders, and their own doctrines... between us and that voice!

And... if WE look at look to, listen to... ANYONE else... WE are putting THAT person and THEIR voice etween is and HIS voice! Yes... INCLUDING me!!

Hence, when I exhort you to NOT listen to me but go DIRECTLY to the Source... to him... it is NOT due to some mock humility on my part. It is NOT because I'm not trying to take the "glory." It is not mine to take! I couldn't if I WANTED to. Not so long as TRUTH is my aim. And it IS. Always!

"HEAR...O, ISRAEL!"

"Let the one with ears HEAR!"

Dear ones, "it is a WICKED 'generation'"... meaning those generated... that "keep looking for a sign." Something to SEE... with the eyes... to have "proof" of who and what s/he is. And where and when... as well as what HE is. In contrast, HAPPY are those...
WHO DO NOT SEE... and YET... BELIEVE.". Those who HAVE... and EXERCISE... FAITH.

Those who see... whose EYES keep "speaking" to them... are judged... BY... BECAUSE of... and BY MEANS OF... their own sight. Because they walk BY [their own] sight, rather than by LISTENING to the VOICE of the One who SPEAKS. John 9:41

Please, if you HAVE "ears to hear," dear, DEAR ones... use THEM. And LISTEN, then OBEY (to the greatest extent you can). If you DON'T have them (and do not be misled or fooled, even by yourself, that you do if you don't!)... ASK for them. But ask... IN truth and FOR [the] Truth... and with a heart SOFTENED... so such truth can be written... INDELIBLY... there.

I'm sorry for my "zeal" here, but I just shared with you not only MY heart's joy, but it was if the entire heavenly host SHOUTED in THEIR joy that YOU received this, dear, dear Loz... and I could not hold back! They made quite a loud noise, too - LOLOLOL!

So, THANK you, dear, dear Loz, for sharing this! I rejoice WITH you... and BEG that the UNdeserved kindness and mercy of our precious Father, the MOST Holy (One) of Israel... and love and mercy of His Son and our dear, dear Lord, JAHESHUA, the Holy (One), Holy Spirit, and HIS Chosen One (MischaJAH), be and continue upon you... upon you ALL... and upon your dear households... to time INDEFINITE!

YSSFS of Christ... always and to time indefinite,

Shel (and please forgive any typos, etc. The weather took a turn and I'm not quite tiptop these past few days - but I am OKAY and all is well, here!).


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 4:21 am 
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The gods of the godless nations are mere trinkets,
made for quick sale in the markets:
Chiseled mouths that can’t talk,
painted eyes that can’t see,
Carved ears that can’t hear—
dead wood! cold metal!
Those who make and trust them
become like them.

Psalm 135:15-18 The Message Bible

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Sylvia


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 2:17 pm 
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And other religions put the Bible, the Torah, the Quran, the "Law" (Covenant), their leaders, and their own doctrines... between us and that voice!

Yes they have! Greetings and peace to you all this beautiful day!

They put their trust in these "lifeless" books made of sticks and wood, thinking that by reading and studying them will give you life.

May I too add JOHN 5:39-41

"You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me,yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

And,

Hebrews 4:12

"For the Word of God ( not the Bible but our Lord and Christ JAHeshua is The Word of God) is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, He/it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; He/It judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart."

And Rev 19:13

"He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God."



Wonderful good news Yes!

Peace and love to you all, your sister fellow servant and slave of Christ,
kim


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