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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:56 pm 
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Shells,
AT1:41 into the vide, RICHARD KELLY, PRESIDENT OF AAWA, is heard to say: "whip out a huge erection? giggles then says he is sorry.

i did not know kelly was eevn there until i read utube comments an he states he was. then i find the pictures of a brooklyn meetup w/ all the board members of aawa and steve hassan present. so what does aawa DO, FOR THE CHILDREN AS ACTIVISTS???????????????? SCORE A PIECE OF TRASH/LITTER-ATURE AND THEY ALL SIGN IT FOR HIM.....ITS GOT KELLYS HANDCOCK....LOLOLOLOLOL R U KIDDING ME!

The show [6SCREENS] got dicey but finally they saw the light, to a degree.

then i see what hoyle just said on the other forum to a poster that spelled it out, literally....

now they r in cover up mode, again. we r supposed to believe he said redirection cuz they have been discussing redirection for a few days nowwwwwwwwwwwwww blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhlolololol can u insult my intelligence any further?

its like i stepped on their ant hill

"of other CALIBER".....LOLOLOLOLOL I GOT UR CALIBER RIGHT HER BOZO!! BWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:01 pm 
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Really. Okay, now I'm curious, just because of the explanation. Gonna try again on the iPhone with earplugs. Nope, not gonna ask for divine help. Just gonna see what I hear. Back in a sec.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:19 pm 
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It is officially on aawa2014 youtube page w/ this link, that contains photos of the redirection:

http://aawa.co/blog/who-is-there-to-fear/#more-3439

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Who Is There to Fear?

During his recent visit to the United States on March 21, 2014, Bo Juel Jensen brazenly walked into the Watchtower’s headquarters in Brooklyn Heights, New York and obtained a copy of the large version of the new New World Translation.

When Bo was also offered a Bible study by one of Bethel’s workers, he respectfully informed him that he was a principal volunteer with AAWA (Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses), even handing him his AAWA business card. The look he received from the Bethelite is priceless.

Sometimes people leave the Watchtower, but still fear them. Bo reminds us: “What is there to fear? One reason the Watchtower tells Jehovah’s Witnesses to shun ex-JWs is because they know that we know what’s hiding behind their Wizard-of-Oz-like curtain. The Watchtower Society wants to continue to keep that hidden from their members.”

If you are an ex-JW - or a former member of another religious cult – this is something to seriously ponder, especially if you ever experience that same knee-jerk reaction many people feel due to the undue influence they were living under at one time.

We are fortunate that we have pictures and a video of Bo’s experience because he wasn’t alone when he walked into the Watchtower’s headquarters building. He was accompanied by Gregorio Smith, the filmmaker for the movie “Truth Be Told” – an eye-opening documentary designed to educate non-JWs about what it is like growing up in the Jehovah’s Witness religion.

When I asked Bo how he felt watching a hard-core JW believer at the Watchtower’s world headquarters look at his AAWA business card, he laughed.

“It was kind of weird. But at the same time I had this great feeling. Gregorio was guarding my back, and with a bodyguard and cameraman like him nothing could go wrong. But the look on the guy’s face when he got the AAWA card was priceless…like ‘Ouch! And I thought I was the one who tried to trick you…’ ”

They got a photo and a reaction that Gregorio and Bo will never forget.

Several hours later, when I asked Bo to let me see what his “apostafied” Silver Sword Bible and AAWA business card looked like together, here is what he showed me:

Bo and Gregorio had an adventure that will become an inspirational story for others like me. Many of us still see ex-JWs who are unable to rid themselves of their deep-seated fear of the Watchtower Society. Some have JW family and former friends who zealously champion and practice extreme shunning as a “loving act mandated by their God, Jehovah.”

But there is more to like about this story because it was not a planned event.

Richard Kelly was showing Bo and Gregorio the location of his Bethel experiences and where he walked away from it all fifty years before. Surprisingly, Bo said, “I don’t know about you guys, but I want to see what the inside of the Watchtower’s headquarters looks and smells like.”

As Bo started walking up the stairs, Gregorio said, “Wait, Bo! I’m going with you.” Almost seamlessly, Gregorio handed his large camera to Richard and then bolted up the concrete stairway with Bo.

For ten minutes Richard anxiously waited while nonchalantly watching visiting JWs come and go. He expected that he would soon see his two “apostate” friends escorted out of the Tower’s headquarters.

When Bo and Gregorio walked out, they were both wearing huge victory smiles and had a story for the ages to share. Bo was also proudly waving his personal copy of the “Silver Sword” Bible back and forth for all the world to see. Richard described the emotionally charged experience this way:

“I don’t ever recall being so thrilled, so happy, and so proud of two people than I was at that moment, particularly when Gregorio and Bo started filling me in with the details—especially the part about the ‘Silver Sword’ being a freebie.”

Bo, Gregorio, and Richard clearly had the best seats in the house for this once-in-a-lifetime happening. But I think the following video produced by Gregorio will give you a audio-visual experience of the event that will come in a close second. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

In closing, I would like to steal some sage advice from quotes by both Franklin D.Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy, but offer it with my own small twist:

“The only thing we have to fear is fear itself – unless you are the Watchtower, which has not yet been held accountable for its violations of basic human rights.”

About Ruben Ortiz

A proud and compassionate ex-JW, Ruben has helped thousands of people exit from their toxic JW experiences primarily through his well-managed ex-JW recovery groups on Facebook. He lives in the northeastern part of the United States where he works for the Job Corps helping graduates find needed jobs, housing and education.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:23 pm 
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wow, again, as i review it. what an absolute kerfunkle.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 6:34 pm 
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More insults to the intelligence:

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Guess I'm deaf in one ear and can't hear out of the other - or just dense. Probably both because I'm just a stupid old man. But it is a stretch to imagine that somehow AAWA is going to sneak subliminal messages into our videos - especially those that muddy our message. For what purpose, I wonder? We'd never considered that before, but maybe you've turned us on to something that we can use in the future.

Oh well, have fun with it and share with your friends. The point is not what may have been said or heard in passing, but what the point of the video really is. Bottom line is that it is fun, revealing, and (pardon the expression) "ballsy" for Bo Juel to just walk right in and ask for a new Bible and not try to hide who he is or the fact that he is on the board of advisors of AAWA.

He was just one of the folks from AAWA who were meeting in New England who had a great time. They met with some wonderful groups and individuals (some quite prominent and with good media connections) who are fighting cults with effective education and publicity programs.And again, thank you for your support - such as it is.

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Now it is spun to say that we are saying that they think that we think that they are sneaking in subliminal messages. DA HECK?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:25 pm 
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Hey sKally I`m not letting AAWA get away with it on JWN

I`m back in the Video Suite..

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:43 pm 
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Well dear Skals (peace!), I just typed out a response (on my phone, so it took awhile)... but your posts cancelled it out (the only feature I really dislike about this site).

The gist:

Typical JW/exJW puerility: many JWs/exJWs laugh/giggle/joke... and get offended over things that most have worked through by age 30... even at age 50, 60, or more. I heard the comment but it didn't offend me as (1) I didn't perceive it was said in front of a child or even meant for children's ears; (2) who of us have never said anything inappropriate with no intent to offend; and (3) he did apologize. So, I see no reason for ME... or most... to take offense. Ecclesiastes 7:9

There is one person, however, who might not only take offense... but sue AAWA AND Kelly et al. And THAT is the man he slandered "per se." If I was an attorney I'd tell them to take that video down NOW... and consider replacing it with a just-as-public (i.e., also on YouTube) apology. I'm not an attorney, though, so I would tell them to consult an attorney ASAP as well as be prepared to offer some kind of settlement that doesn't entirely wipe out their little organization.

But for anyone else to take offense... hey, it was silliness. Unfortunately, silliness can be expensive. Just as abuse can. The WTBTS, however, has more $$$ than AAWA, and so are more able to COVER their "erections." AAWA prolly doesn't have enough money to cover it's president's puerile faux pas, let alone it's own hiney. I can't imagine, now that attention has been BROUGHT to what was said, the WTBTS Legal Dept is gonna let THAT go.

AAWA might be about exposing WTBTS abuses, but all they did HERE, was exposé their own neck. WTBTS prolly already preparing a noose.

Ah, well...

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:55 pm 
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but your posts cancelled it out


Why and how does that occur?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:56 pm 
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My Reply to AAWA on JWN..

Hey Juan..
I have good audio equipment here..I cleaned the sound up so it was crystal clear..
I played the Video a few times..
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so I'm sure they used the term "redirection"

"Redirection"?!.....LOL!!.....No thats not what I heard..
I didn`t hear: "Whip out a Huge ReDirection"..
I heard : "Whip Out A Huge Erection"
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.Not quite sure why whatever AAWA does or does not do seems to make you look for our "dark side."

Thats a red herring Juan..
You and I have never had a problem..Lady lee is a Friend..I like Mickey Hudsons Videos..
The problem is AAWA never Admits to Screw ups..

You know what?..
You could have said:
"Everyone was a little nervous..They went for a few beers,they got a little silly.....AAWA Screwed Up..It is what it is..Sorry"
Now AAWA has another Huge PR Problem on their hands again..

AAWA advertises being Advocates for Sexually abused Children..Then that shows up on a Video??!!..
Dude!!..
AAWA is supposed to be the 'Hero`s For Sexually Abused Kids"..
How do you let: "Whip Out A Huge Erection"..Get into the Final cut of an Official AAWA Video??!!
Whoever was in charge of that Official AAWA Campain/Video was sleeping on the Job..
Worse,nobody in AAWA wants to take responsibility..
AAWA screwed up Big Time Juan..

The AAWA Video is still out there for everyone to hear..You really need to take it down..

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:08 pm 
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Congratulations, Outlaw, on having your high-end audio equipment available to hear whatever you are hearing. Perhaps we are listening to different versions, but I'm not going to argue with you over this - it's not worth my time or yours. Besides, you have far more fans on JWN that I do. Congratulations. You've earned them.

In spite of your accusations, AAWA would not have intentionally placed an off-color comment on something we proudly show off to our audience and the public.


Is he pha real?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:11 pm 
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people on jwn still dont realize who said it! the 'off camera guy' lololol he is the president!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:16 pm 
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he keeps saying jonny the bethelite is coming on.....cant wait...lololol

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:25 pm 
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he's asking someone to take the lead...and someone is questioning the johnny bethelite thing.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:27 pm 
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Not sure, dear Skals (peace!). Prolly sumthin to do with the little man runnin' 'round behind the board not being able to juggle too many posts at one time?

Doesn't matter what tbat guy thinks, dear Sher'f (peace, luv!). AAWA et al needs to chuck that "I learned from the WTBTS how to say 'Who, us? We didn't do it!'" egos aside... and quicklike. But, well, who am I and what do I know? Bottom line: Mr. Kelly knows what he said. Remains tosee if he has the honesty and integrity to cop to it.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:52 pm 
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the bait worked!!! johnnys on!!! lolol

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