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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:34 am 
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Hah I saw this on JWN and its a GEM, Yes the WT printed some truth but it doesn't apply to them. They can't see themselves they are so blind. Talk about the Kettle calling the Pot black and why don't they practice their own advice!!


I love this gem, it was taken off the jw.org website, it seems only material after 1990 is up now, but it's here, Page 6, "The need to search for the truth".

Says this....and I couldn't agree with it more!



"But do we deserve honor or credit for belonging to a religion that we received from our parents, if we have never done anything to check whether that religion is right or wrong? A man born in Italy would likely be born into a Catholic family, and he would grow up a Catholic. A man born in Burma would likely be of the Buddhist religion. If a man is born in a Muslim family, he will likely grow up as a Muslim. Surely all of this means nothing as to his submitting himself to God. It is purely an accident.

The man who truly surrenders himself to God is the one who carefully examines all aspects of the religion he was born into. If he finds it is true, he remains with it. But if he finds it is false, he sets out to find the true religion. Some find it hard to reason on the subject of religion. They are strongly convinced theirs is the right religion and no more discussion is needed.

In this, we may be a little like a fanatical supporter of a certain sports team. As you know, when a fanatical supporter watches his own team play another one, he supports his own, however badly it plays. If the opponents win, he may say that they cheated, or the referee was on their side, or something else happened. He thus ignores the good qualities of the other team, and all the bad qualities of his own. However, to see the true facts in a sports engagement, you have to be impartial. And this is even more so in the case of religion.

If our mind is captive to prejudice, we will never see the truth. Is it reasonable to say whether something is right or wrong before you have looked into it, or before you have even thought about it? Yes, we may have received our religion from our parents, and we respect our parents. We owe them much, and many of the things they have given us are very good. But that does not mean we have to accept everything they say without thinking. Our parents are human, as we are. They make mistakes, as we do.

In fact, many of the problems that we have to live with today are because of things that our parents’ generation did. They did not do them deliberately to make things hard for us. They just made mistakes, because of being human. Hence, a wise man will examine the things he has received from his parents, including his religion. He will keep the good things and reject those things that are not good. This is essential if he is to find the truth about religion.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:41 am 
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This is from JWN also - quoting what is on the Watchtower website.

I searched Watchtower Library and came up with this reference, Booklet titled "The Time for True Submission to God" from 1983

In another thread Atlantis provided a link to the pdf which is still active. http://www.sendspace.com/file/kc20bc

*** sm pp. 15-18 The Need to Search for the Truth ***
The Need to Search for the Truth
1 Actually, we need to know the truth about everything we have dealings with. A businessman wants to know the truth when he is settling accounts. He does not let sentiment or prejudice blind him, otherwise he is likely to lose money. When we get married, we want to know the truth about our future partner. If we allow ourselves to be deceived, we will likely be unhappy later on. Yes, if we do not know the truth about a matter, we invariably lose out in one way or another. This is also true with respect to religion. The problem is, many people for one reason or another are not inclined to discuss religious matters.

2 Here someone may say: ‘But I have a religion. I belong to the same religion my parents and my grandparents belonged to. How can that be wrong?’ Yes, at birth most of us received some religious faith as a heritage from our parents. Often, the name of that religion is put on our identity papers without our even being asked.

3 But do we deserve honor or credit for belonging to a religion that we received from our parents, if we have never done anything to check whether that religion is right or wrong? A man born in Italy would likely be born into a Catholic family, and he would grow up a Catholic. A man born in Burma would likely be of the Buddhist religion. If a man is born in a Muslim family, he will likely grow up as a Muslim.

4 Surely all of this means nothing as to his submitting himself to God. It is purely an accident. The man who truly surrenders himself to God is the one who carefully examines all aspects of the religion he was born into. If he finds it is true, he remains with it. But if he finds it is false, he sets out to find the true religion.

5 Some find it hard to reason on the subject of religion. They are strongly convinced theirs is the right religion and no more discussion is needed. In this, we may be a little like a fanatical supporter of a certain sports team. As you know, when a fanatical supporter watches his own team play another one, he supports his own, however badly it plays. If the opponents win, he may say that they cheated, or the referee was on their side, or something else happened. He thus ignores the good qualities of the other team, and all the bad qualities of his own.

6 However, to see the true facts in a sports engagement, you have to be impartial. And this is even more so in the case of religion. If our mind is captive to prejudice, we will never see the truth. Is it reasonable to say whether something is right or wrong before you have looked into it, or before you have even thought about it?

7 Yes, we may have received our religion from our parents, and we respect our parents. We owe them much, and many of the things they have given us are very good. But that does not mean we have to accept everything they say without thinking. Our parents are human, as we are. They make mistakes, as we do. In fact, many of the problems that we have to live with today are because of things that our parents’ generation did. They did not do them deliberately to make things hard for us. They just made mistakes, because of being human.

8 Hence, a wise man will examine the things he has received from his parents, including his religion. He will keep the good things and reject those things that are not good. This is essential if he is to find the truth about religion.

[Study Questions]
 1. (a) Illustrate why it is to our advantage to know the truth about everything we have dealings with. (b) What problem often arises in discussions about religion?
 2, 3. Is it any credit to a person to belong to a religion merely because he inherited it from his parents?
 4. How can a man be sure he has truly submitted to God?
 5, 6. Why should we be reasonable and open-minded when we discuss religion?
 7, 8. How will a wise man view the things he received from his parents?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:43 am 
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Talk about Truth being told but it doesn't apply to the Watchtower writers and Governing Body LOL


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What about this, dear Zoe (mornin', peace, and thanks for sharing that!)... from the Proclaimer's Book (pages 69-70), as to the "clergy of Christendom" -

"A bigoted group of men who systematically endeavor to throttle all Bible teaching, unless it comes through them."

Talk about a pot calling a kettle black! LOLOLOL!

Hypocrites never see their hypocrisy, though. Like leaven, it permeates... but also is hidden once incorporated.

Ah, well... what can you expect. We (the Body) were warned.

Peace!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:08 pm 
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Funny isn't it? How it is RIGHT THERE, but not seen.

Though at least there is no question for those who their eyes open... because it IS "right there"!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:43 pm 
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YES , to all!!!!

I had a family member tell me just that.

She said " I cannot believe what I am seeng! More and more. I would have never seen this unless I was on the outside looking in and applying all the things they SAY to THEM!"....

So, yes. They are truly blind! They are truly blind guides!
Thanks for sharing all of this

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Hence, a wise man will examine the things he has received from his parents, including his religion.


.......................Take our Advice..
..........We`re not Using It!..

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Lol @ Outlaw!

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It's kind of amazing, isn't it, really (peace to you, all!)? I mean, you have to ask yourself: do they not HEAR what THEY themselves are saying?? And then you realize: a LOT of people TALK... but pay absolutely NO attention to what it being SAID. By themselves OR others.

That is why we, those who wish/profess to be members of the Body of Christ... must learn to LISTEN. NOT talk. Even in our own HEADS. Be STILL... and LISTEN. To what is being said to US... and what WE are saying: to others... and to ourselves.

Else, we might actually be hypocrites, too!

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It's kind of amazing, isn't it, really (peace to you, all!)? I mean, you have to ask yourself: do they not HEAR what THEY themselves are saying?? .....Shelby

Your dealing with WBT$ Rock Stars!..
They don`t have to listen..
They Speak for God,Jesus and the Anointed..
They Are the FDS!!..


The WBT$ GB..
Autograph`s Bibles when they go Out on Tour..

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ImageJW`s Worship their WBT$ Idols..Image

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The Problem with this place is..
You People don`t have a Golden Calf!..
It`s all about Jesus!..
Jesus,Jesus,Jesus!!..

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You People don`t have a Golden Calf!


You're right, we don't, dear Sher'f (peace, luv!). But we DO have ourselves a white Lamb - LOLOLOL! AND... whoever washes in his BLOOD... can make THEIR robes white, too! So, given the choice, I'm goin' with the Lamb, luv. Wherever HE goes! LOLOLOL!

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lol on the advice one, Outlaw. I wish I could put that on my sign; but I suppose that would be wrong. Do they seriously autograph bibles?


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So, given the choice, I'm goin' with the Lamb,.....Shelby


A Nice White Lamb..Or ..
A Lifetime of Enslavement to a Multi billion Dollar real estate business,Disguised as a Religion..
Do you ever wonder if your Priorities are a little mixed up?..

Theres Money to be Made where theres Corruption..
We could Fleece the Flock for a Few Bucks..
Cut the right people in and they`ll turn a Blind Eye..

I`ve taken WBT$ Womens head coverings to a new Level..
With this head covering Women can have Position in the Congregation..
No more Sex Discrimination!!.


Introducing the New..
WBT$ Equalizer!!..

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......................... PO....................................Crazy JW Elder...

You can follow Jesus..Or..We can get Rich!!..
We`ll make a Fortune selling WBT$ Equalizers!!..
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!..

*Greedily rubs hands together*



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Do they seriously autograph bibles?.....ataloa


The picture is real..
The WBT$ GB autographed WBT$ NWT Bibles for Cuban Government Officials..

God didn`t mind because he wouldn`t have a Job without the WBT$..

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OUTLAW wrote:
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So, given the choice, I'm goin' with the Lamb,.....Shelby


A Nice White Lamb..Or ..
A Lifetime of Enslavement to a Multi billion Dollar real estate business,Disguised as a Religion..
Do you ever wonder if your Priorities are a little mixed up?..

Theres Money to be Made where theres Corruption..
We could Fleece the Flock for a Few Bucks..
Cut the right people in and they`ll turn a Blind Eye..

I`ve taken WBT$ Womens head coverings to a new Level..
With this head covering Women can have Position in the Congregation..
No more Sex Discrimination!!.


Introducing the New..
WBT$ Equalizer!!..

ImageImage
......................... PO....................................Crazy JW Elder...

You can follow Jesus..Or..We can get Rich!!..
We`ll make a Fortune selling WBT$ Equalizers!!..
Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!..

*Greedily rubs hands together*



......................................Image...OUTLAW



You Crack me up! I've missed you and your laughs!
Thanks Outlaw....

Love Justmom


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