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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2021 11:27 am 
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JWs challenge privacy
Judge orders stay of Jehovah's Witnesses constitutional claim on privacy of records
Jon Manchester - Sep 23, 2021 / 4:00 am
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Who gets to decide the constitutionality of privately held church records is at the centre of a court and privacy commission battle being waged by the Jehovah's Witnesses and two former members.

A B.C. Supreme Court judge has ordered a stay of proceedings in a case in which the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Canada sought to challenge British Columbia's privacy laws, saying the matter is best decided by the privacy commission.

The church had refused to turn over personal records sought by former Jehovah's Witnesses Gregory Westgarde and Gabriel-Liberty Wall.

Justice Janet Winteringham gave her decision in Vancouver on Monday.

It involves former members of the Jehovah's Witnesses in Coldstream and Grand Forks who wanted their personal records turned over to them after they left the church.

The congregations refused the requests, claiming the records were confidential and that compelling production violated their constitutional rights.

Church elders John Vabuolas and Paul Sidhu have proceedings underway before B.C.’s privacy commissioner on the matter, and Winteringham wrote in her decision that the court challenge versus B.C.'s attorney general be stayed pending the outcome of the privacy inquiries.

Vabuolas is an elder in the Grand Forks congregation, where Gabriel-Liberty Wall requested disclosure of his personal information in March 2020. Wall was baptized in February 2012, moved to the Grand Forks congregation in 2014, and formally resigned from the church in 2017.

Sidhu is an elder in the Coldstream congregation, where Gregory Westgarde requested his records in October 2020. About August 2009, Westgarde "made known to the elders he no longer wished to be known as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses."

Sidhu described Westgarde’s departure from the church as "unequivocal," despite a trio of elders offering spiritual guidance.

"Based on our internal canon law, a brief summary of this decision, our efforts, and (Mr. Westgarde’s) response was placed in a confidential file under lock and key," Sidhu wrote in a deposition.

According to the litigants, "As a part of their spiritual duties, elders may create records about their congregants, particularly as it relates to their religious standing as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. The plaintiffs allege B.C.’s privacy legislation does not recognize or respect the confidentiality of these records created in relation to the elders’ spiritual duties and as such violates their constitutional rights."

The Watchtower sought to stay the privacy inquiries and let the court decide the matter, but the judge disagreed, staying the civil suit against the attorney general's ministry, pending the outcome of the Office of the Information and Privacy Commissioner hearings.

The elders maintained that PIPA "violates their constitutional rights of religious freedom, freedom of expression and freedom of association because the legislation fails to protect confidential religious communications and records."

– Editors note: This article has been corrected to clarify that the judge stayed the civil suit to allow the privacy commission hearings to continue.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2021 9:53 am 
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Smells like WTBTS realizes HUGE potential for libel suits. If these files get turned over... how many more will come after?

I can only imagine what my "file" said/says. Probably protected by Statute of Limitations. Ah, well.

Thanks for sharing this, dear Sher'f, and peace to you and Jake!

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Hey Shelby!
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Smells like WTBTS realizes HUGE potential for libel suits. If these files get turned over... how many more will come after?

The WBT$ knows it`s "Up to it`s Ass in Alligators".
Once there`s a precedent set, there will be a tsunami of law suits to follow.

JW kids are going to have to donate a lot more of their Ice Cream money to the WBT$.
There`s no way WBT$ GB member Anthony Morris, is going to give up his Single Malt Scotch.
That stuff is expensive!
The money has to come from some where!!

Scotch! Where`s the Scotch? I`m not giving up my Scotch!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:37 pm 
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NO way, dear Sher'f - LOLOLOLOLOLOL!

Peace to you, my dear friend -

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