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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:24 pm 
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Yes, the word "anticipated" does make me a bit nervous. We shall see. Or, we shall not see. I'd start a wager with ten bux he does not show, instead brings in a scapeGOAT.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:43 pm 
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Greetings, all (and peace to you!). Just a couple things:

1. Even if the summons was accepted, Mr. Jackson must still APPEAR. If he does not, he can be found in contempt, for which a warrant could be issued for his arrest. I am thinking, then, it would be in his best interest to do so. HOWEVER, please don't underestimate the WTBTS... OR forget they not only have their own lawyers, but their own DOCTORS. And I have NO doubt that a doctor... or doctors... who are SWORN to the Hippocratic oath (at least, in the U.S. they are), yet will STILL not step up and speak... or step down and leave... KNOWING their precious "organization" defies the law as to pedophiles (hence, the "superior authorities" be damned)... would have NO problem writing a doctor's excuse for some old religious hypocrite, false prophet and false christ.

2. Forgive me, dear Skals (peace to you!), as I truly don't mean to offend but to understand... why do you wish your identity to remain confidential and why would you NOT testify before the Royal Commission, if called upon to do so?? Again, I am NOT trying to cause you pain, offend you, or hurt/harm you in ANY way. I just truly do not understand. Can you explain, please? I mean, we can all talk all day long about "exposing" the WTBTS, but if none of us are willing to stand up, stand OUT... OPENLY expose her... will she ever truly BE exposed?

Then again, as I have shared before, she isn't brought down by any of us but by JAH Himself. So, I understand, from that POV, while folks stay hidden in the shadows. But on a personal level I truly do not get it. What has anyone to FEAR of them? Is that not what gives them their POWER... everyone's (well, almost - I certainly don't fear their asses) so frickin' AFRAID of them/what they "can" do?

Imagine: if everyone who knew what they truly are, have seen what they truly do, have been victim to their "machinations" or knew someone who had been... STOOD UP. Whether as to their religious/spiritual hypocrisy and lies, their fleecing of the sheep and devouring of widows' houses, their violation of the fast of JAH (by teaching people to hide from their own flesh... or their HEINOUS treatment of/condonment of the treatment of children...

Just stood up and said:

"Hi, I'm a(n) (ex)JW and MY name is... and I know THIS about the WTBTS..."

Maybe that wouldn't bring her down... but it would CERTAINLY UNLOOSEN THE SHACKLES SHE (STILL) HAS ON SUCH ONES. SHE might not set folks free, but there is NOTHING stopping folks from BEING set free... except themselves and their fear.

So, again, I am truly not trying to offend or hurt you, but just want to understand: what can those earthling men DO to you if you DID testify, DID say who you were and WHY you have an issue with them... publicly?

As always, peace to you. Truly.

Your servant and a slave of Christ, who doesn't require those in him to hide,

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 2:57 pm 
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Hey sKally!..

I`m with Shelby on this one..
Who has more damning info than you,on the WBT$..Child abuse..ect..ect..?!..
You`d get a Free Vacation to Australia,You could bring me back a kangaroo!..LOL!!..
Plus..
You could publicly kick some WBT$ Ass in a Court of Law..
Maybe even Verbally beat up a WBT$ Pope!.....I`d pay to see that!!..LOL!!..

Just something to think about..
If you do go.....Don`t forget my Kangaroo..

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I've long held onto the notion that it is the elders and jws who are online for years and know all of what I know, by people like me and many others, that should be the ones DOING this. There are many still active in their congs, while perched high atop the 'fence', that owe the flock, and the public officials, the truth. They however, get to remain in the shadows, while people like myself and derek RISK our freedom and rights, simply by stating THE TRUTH, backed up with documents.

My name is not important. My Information is. The RC has my name. I'm not in this for my name in lights, like so many others. I prefer to be just that : an inform ANT.

Well outlaw, i can think of a few...... //;)

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Well outlaw, i can think of a few.....sKally

And..
Articulate it as well as you?.....Nope..
Your one of the best I`ve ever heard,when Your On Your Game.
Your "One of the Few" who could do the WBT$ some Serious Damage,while Speaking in Person..

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while people like myself and derek RISK our freedom and rights


And THIS is what I don't understand, dear Skals (again, peace to you!): risk WHAT "freedom" and "rights"?? What can they DO?? As someone who has gone before (one of) them personally, written to them in my own name, stood outside their KHs with a sign, tell them my name whenever they ask, posted my FULL name and location on the Internet, including (now) anti-WTBTS forums, I would truly like to what freedom and rights *I* have risked/am risking.

Because THUS far, for all of their fear-MONGERING, not only have I not seen any "consequences" from them but can't for the LIFE of me see where there would BE any. At least none of any great significance. Okay, so a few people on this planet won't speak to me. So what? So... less people I have to speak TO. Less birthdays and other events *I* (who already have a hard time with such) have to remember. Less smoochie-smoochie I have to do. THAT's what I should be AFRAID of?

I get it: in some instance, "family ties" are severed. But who's doing the severing? And in many instances, the ties are already severed. At least, as far as everyone "says".

So, please, tell me: what freedoms and rights (rights??) are being risked by standing up and TELLING the truth... out
loud and out of hiding?

As always, I really wish you nothing BUT peace, dear Skally. And freedom. But TRUE freedom, luv - not just a facade of it.

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:21 pm 
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God knows, all about Me. Ask Him. It is up to Him to reveal what He wishes, about Me. Surely, He could help straighten it out, for You. Whatever It is you are not understanding, about Me. After all, He created what is known as Me. Who better to understand Me, than Him. No question mark there. What do you suppose He will reveal? O-

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 4:32 pm 
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What do you suppose He will reveal?


Well, I took your advice, dear lady (peace to you!)... and asked about this. And while the MOST HOLY One of Israel Himself, JAH of Armies, did not respond, His Son, my Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, His Chosen One (MischaJAH)... did. Very concisely and very sublimely... and, as usual, with a question. He asked me:

"Have you not heard, child, the people with nothing to hide, hide nothing... and those who hide nothing, have nothing TO hide?"

And so, I apologize, dear lady. I did not mean this as a pry, at least not on a personal level - your business is your business. I meant it as an attempt to try and understand the "mentality" that so permeates not only JW thinking, but ex-JW thinking, when it comes to speaking out about the truth as to them... AND not hiding oneself in the process. To me, it's as if we're living in the days of ancient Rome and the early christian Body: "someone" might come and take us "away", hand us over to the lions, stone us, or something. Praise JAH, we don't live in those days.

And no, I have to honestly say that losing one's loved ones (in the sense that they no longer want to talk to/associate with one) is NOT the same thing. I wouldn't even deign to compare the two to, say, someone whose loved ones WERE victim to harm in the form of, say, being eaten by lions... or consumed by a holocaust "shower". I do think a child who has been molested by some deviant WTBTS-coddled pervert might consider it similar, though. But maybe not even that is enough.

I'll leave it at that.

As always, peace to you... and to your household!

Your servant (always) and a slave of Christ,

Shel


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:58 pm 
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Interesting.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 6:26 pm 
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Jackson pulls a Juan Epstein and skips the hearing
"Yo, Mr. Kotter. i got a note"

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i'm with sKally
staying in the shadows
FOR NOW
not forever

the same as snipers don't wear bright orange vests
or a hat with a flashing green arrow
then make a huge number of specialized critical kills
compared to the average infantryman who smokes mere minions

sure it's great having an armored shell
but some of us have a vulnerable fleshy underbelly at the moment

in time, sKallywagger
a supersuit may be readied for you
cuz
well
you already can pound the crap out of big leaguers
and a protective supersuit would let your punches
not just land hard
but render knockouts (that's PLURAL)

this site has uber elite
like Outlaw and Shelby
and you know what's coming from me in November
(all anonymous so i can launch enough
before the enemy easily takes me out
after having realized who i am
and therefore
what my known crippling weaknesses are),

we got your back
now and in the future

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each of you has a role you're CLEARLY good at as uber elite

Outlaw = power here and elsewhere, sheriff for a reason
Shelby = wisdom, LAWYER both secular and spiritual knowledge
sKally = justice, unrelenting and pure and not forgetful
tammy, kim, and others = love, tempered and balanced and forgiving

so it my be unrealistic to expect Justice
to be the lawyer
or sheriff
or be forgiving

the formation of this page is
of historical importance,
the timing 2012
and the assembling of you all as main players
are all IMPOSSIBLE
but
there is another big picture
which is moving behind you all
and positioning you all
as critically important chess pieces
for what comes next

i am ASTOUNDED at who you all are here

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Wait, what?

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stood outside their KHs with a sign


I don't remember reading about this. Please tell us the story?



Wheels, I am always intrigued at your posts, but I'm never clever enough to understand them. What is happening in November? Or is it a secret? That's okay if so; just thought I might have missed an important post.


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Nothing major, dear At (peace to you, dear sister!). No one bothered to ask me WHY I was DF'd - just assumed they "knew" why (apostasy, even though I was ASSURED by the PO that it was NOT for that but for "disobedience" - I wouldn't attend a 15th JC meeting; nothing more to share at that point). So, I made a little sign with nothing but "John 6:48-58" written on it and stood just at the driveway of the KH a couple/few times. I was directed to use those verses. I think it was because my "troubles" really took off once I partook. Talk about people hating you, even gnashing their teeth... chile'...

And that's it, that's all. Did it 2-3 times, then was told to move on to other assignments.

Peace to you!

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Cool story, Shelby; no one can call you a coward.


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Only just catching up with these videos of the Australian Commission. Such heartbreaking examples to listen to. The elders I've watched so far, show themselves to be completely blinkered by the wtbs process and in the main, totally insensitive to the harm they have or can cause to victims.

I am hopeful at seeing them squirm, when confronted by legal minds who won't tolerate any BS, that it might be effective in helping others trapped inside to SEE the wtbs for what she is...

*Shakes head sadly and goes back to carry on viewing*

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