Idjits. I need to respond, dear Skals (peace to you, luv!), but to "them":
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Many years ago, our publications stated that such faithful men and women as Deborah, Elihu, Jephthah, Job, Rahab, and Rebekah, as well as many others, were really types, or shadows, of either the anointed or the “great crowd.” (Rev. 7:9) For example, Jephthah, Job, and Rebekah were thought to represent the anointed, while Deborah and Rahab were said to foreshadow the great crowd. However, in recent years we have not drawn such comparisons. Why not?
Well, let's see: had "you" been LED BY GOD'S (HOLY) SPIRIT... you wouldn't have made "comparison" in the first place, but spoke in TRUTH. "You," though, do not KNOW the truth... because you do not KNOW... the TRUTH.
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In his letter to the Hebrews, Paul links king-priest Melchizedek to Jesus, highlighting specific similarities between the two. (Heb. 6:20; 7:1-3) Further, Paul compares Isaiah and his sons to Jesus and his anointed followers. (Heb. 2:13, 14) Paul was writing under inspiration; thus, we gladly accept what he says about these types.
Ummmm... Paul... didn't write the letter to the Hebrews. The writer of "John," whom we know as "Lazarus"... wrote it. Again, "you" would KNOW that, had you be taught by a TRUE anointing (one with holy spirit).
1 John 2:26, 27However, even where the Bible indicates that someone is a type of someone else, we should not conclude that every detail or incident in the life of the type is a picture of something greater. For example, although Paul tells us that Melchizedek is a type of Jesus, Paul says nothing about the fact that on one occasion
Melchizedek brought out bread and wine for Abraham to enjoy after he had defeated four kings. Hence,
there is no Scriptural basis for finding a hidden meaning in that incident.—Gen. 14:1, 18.
OMG... SERIOUSLY?? And so, what about:
"For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them." John 6:55, 56"[Jesus] took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is my body.” Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." Matthew 26:26-28Quote:
Some writers in the centuries after Christ’s death fell into a trap—they saw types everywhere. Describing the teachings of Origen, Ambrose, and Jerome, The International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia explains: “They sought for types, and of course found them, in every incident and event, however trivial, recorded in Scripture. Even the most simple and commonplace circumstance was thought to conceal within itself the most recondite [hidden] truth . . . , even in the number of fish caught by the disciples on the night the risen Saviour appeared to them—how much some have tried to make of that number, 153!”
Red herring: here, you ignorant people - we'll throw out something that SOUNDS "intelligent" so's you don't know we're REALLY just BSing and deflecting from the actual question... and our inexplicable change from our former course. We can't explain it, dazzle you with our brilliance... well, at least not honestly and rationally... so we're just gonna baffle youse wit (some more) BS.
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Augustine of Hippo commented extensively on the account where we read that Jesus fed about 5,000 men with five barley loaves and two fish. Since barley was considered to be inferior to wheat, Augustine concluded that the five loaves must represent the five books of Moses (the inferior “barley” representing the supposed inferiority of the “Old Testament”). And the two fish? For some reason he likened them to a king and a priest.
But it's okay for US... to feed some "millenial" melarkey about "times, times, and a half times"... and how if you look at it long enough, your eyes'll cross... and THEN... you WILL SEE... no, no, not the glory of God. You will SEE... how it "adds" up to "1914"! What, you can't SEE that... yet??
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Another scholar fond of looking for types and antitypes asserted that Jacob’s purchase of Esau’s birthright with a bowl of red stew represented Jesus’ purchase of the heavenly inheritance for mankind with his red blood!
Ummm... that scholar would be right. No, no, no need to 'splain why you don't know THAT...
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If such interpretations seem far-fetched, you can understand the dilemma. Humans cannot know which Bible accounts are shadows of things to come and which are not.
Au contrare! Those who have the mind of CHRIST... CERTAINLY can! That was WHOLE POINT of giving his Body various GIFTS! Oh, wait, wait... the gifts "ceased," didn't they? That wouldn't be because YOU don't HAVE any... would it? So they ceased... for YOU? Yes, indeed, that's EXACTLY why [they've ceased for YOU]. But they continue and will continue... until that which is COMPLETE, Christ HIMSELF... arrives. Well, at least, that's what PAUL said. Too bad you don't understand what he MEANT.
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The clearest course is this: Where the Scriptures teach that an individual, an event, or an object is typical of something else, we accept it as such. Otherwise, we ought to be reluctant to assign an antitypical application to a certain person or account if there is no specific Scriptural basis for doing so.
Well, unless... there's a HOLY SPIRIT basis for doing so. But, then, you wouldn't know anything about
that, would'ja?
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How, then, can we benefit from the events and examples found in the Scriptures? At Romans 15:4, we read the apostle Paul’s words: “All the things that were written beforehand were written for our instruction, so that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope.” Paul was saying that his anointed brothers in the first century could learn powerful lessons from the events that were recorded in the Scriptures. However, God’s people in every generation, whether of the anointed or of the “other sheep,” whether living in “the last days” or not, could benefit—and have benefited—from the lessons taught in “all the things that were written beforehand.”—John 10:16; 2 Tim. 3:1.
ORRRrrrrrr... they could listen to the One God TOLD them to listen to (
Matthew 17:5. And THAT One said (wait, gotta get it from THEIR bible...):
“You are searching the Scriptures because you think that you will have everlasting life by means of them; and these are the very ones that bear witness about me. And yet you do not want to come to me so that you may have life." John 5:39. 40Thankfully, he followed up with an explanation as to WHY they don't: they're not LIKE or FROM him:
"I do not accept glory from men, but I well know that you do not have the love of God in you."Ooooh. Ka-POW!
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Instead of viewing most of these accounts as finding their application to only one class, whether the anointed or the great crowd, and to only one time period, God’s people of either class and from any time period can apply to themselves many of the lessons the accounts teach us. Thus, for example, we need not limit the application of the book of Job to the experiences the anointed endured during World War I. Many of God’s servants, both men and women, both of the anointed and of the great crowd, have undergone experiences such as Job faced and “have seen the outcome Jehovah gave, that Jehovah is very tender in affection and merciful.”—Jas. 5:11.
OMG. THIS, dear ones, is the reason for the FALSE "reasoning"!!!! It's a SET UP. LOOK at what they've PUBLISHED:
Instead of viewing most of these accounts as finding their application to only one class, whether the anointed or the great crowd, and to only one time period,
God’s people of either class and from any time period
can apply to themselves many of the lessons the accounts teach us.So... what? So... we may soon see an end to the "anointed" class of Jehovah's Witnesses. Despite more than a century of teaching about that group dwindling down, it has been GROWING. How can they justify that? They can't. We know they can't. They can only... get rid of it. NO ONE eats or drinks... because NO ONE is "anointed"... at least of those left/under age, what... 70? 80? 100+?
Consider: In our congregations today, do we not find older women as loyal as Deborah, fine young elders as wise as Elihu, courageous pioneers as zealous as Jephthah, and faithful men and women as patient as Job? How grateful we are that Jehovah preserved the record of “all the things that were written beforehand,” so that “through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope”!
Don't let the last sentence fool you: the punch... is in the consideration: "there's NO difference between the old and young!" (anymore). OR... perhaps they're using this to say there's no difference... as to age... for the "anointed" (of their members).
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So for these reasons our publications in recent years have emphasized the lessons we can learn from Bible accounts instead of trying to find typical and antitypical patterns and fulfillments.
Oh, BS! The stuff above has absolutely NOTHING to do with the change. The CHANGE... is because so MUCH of what you've "found" to be typical/antitypical [patterns] and PARTICULARLY "fulfillments"... HAVE BEEN WRONG. DEAD wrong. Including THIS, two separate hopes and so two separate "observances" as to the body and blood of Christ. You can't CONTINUE with the lie (it's had SO many holes blown into it!)... and rather than say, "We were wrong AND we're not who we SAY we are..." you are continuing on your path. To mislead... IF possible... EVEN the anointed:
"Ahh, now, dear Sister Miserable, I know you FEEL like you should partake, but there's no harm in you NOT doing so. You may not be 'anointed', but you're NO different than Old Sister "Been Waiting Since 1918" over there! No, no, it's not because you're YOUNG that I'm saying this - I just want you to know that 'Jehovah' loves you BOTH, whether you partake or NOT. Eating his flesh and drinking his blood is really not THAT big of a deal! No, REALLY! Remember, YOU have life IN YOURSELF, so you don't NEED to partake. Old Sister, though, well, she was born in 1917 and so, while she wasn't alive in 1914... or 1915... or 1916... nor was she of an age when she was born to have recognized Christ when he appointed US at his FDS... she KNOWS someone... who knows someone... who knows someone... who was born in 1890 (her mom) and so WAS alive in 1914... AND was of an age to recognize Christ when he appoint US as his FDS! So, there... you SEE? NO difference between you, me, or Old Sister Waiting But About to Keel Over! Nothing for you to worry about at ALL! Now, go on back to your husband and stop bothering the 'brothers' with silly questions about whether you should partake or not, and how you 'feel' when the bread and wine pass by you. We GOT'CHU, girl, we GOT'CHU!"
Utter... idjits. Make my stomach ache. IDJITS.
Sorry, dear ones. Had to get THAT "out" of my heart's "abundance." Would'a ate me up, for sure, had I held it in.
Thanks, dear Skals, for the opportunity.
Peace to you all and to your dear, dear households!
A slave of Christ, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJAH),
SA