As for the topic (peace, dear one... and I hope you know me enough by now to know "where" from within me my previous comments came... as well as the verbosity that will come now - LOLOL!)...
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This, of course, is not what WTBTS teaches
They may not teach it, but I've heard many a JW SAY/USE it as a "support" for their false teaching that "only 144,000" go to heaven (versus ALL good people). The VERY false accusation that the MOST HOLY One of Israel, JAH of Armies, would
prohibit ANY
good person from going to heaven (false, because that would be UNRIGHTEOUSNESS on His part!) notwithstanding... it's also false just on the basis of it's logic. Let me show you:
THEY teach that only 144,000 go to heaven; however, such ones "go"... because they are the "righteous", yes? Yet, to be righteous... is to be GOOD. Hence, per their teaching the 144,000 go to heaven... BECAUSE they ARE good. Following? So, in keeping with THEIR teaching, that "only 144,000" go to heaven... and their assertion that such ones ARE "good" (i.e., righteous)... such ones GO...
because of Christ's death... yes?
Okay, then.
Now, YOUR argument (which is correct) is that he opened the way INTO heaven (the Most Holy)... for EVERYONE (of those who actually gain entrance). Regardless of whether it's 144,000... or more... perhaps even everyone who ever lived. The ONLY reason they can/DO get entry... is BECAUSE he came down and died FOR such ones.
If, however, one were to take the comment just on the basis of LOGIC...
when looking at the teachings of the WTBTS... the statement is TRUE. Because,
based on THEIR teaching, ONLY the 144,000 ARE "good."
And so,
looking at their teaching:
Only good people go to heaven
Only "anointed" JWs go to heaven
Thus, only "anointed" JWs are good.
Yet, Christ came down and died... so that "anointed" JWs could go to heaven.
Therefore, Christ came down and died... so that ALL good people (i.e., ALL "anointed JWs") could go to heaven.You see? And this is why I often have so much... pity, yeah, but sometimes even a bit of utter flabbergastation (my word) as to the (so-called) "intelligence" of... Jehovah's Witnesses. They THINK they are SO smart, yet they often say things... and even worse,
often don't even have a CLUE as to WHAT they're saying... that NEGATES what they are trying to claim!
To give you an example of what I mean, I used to know a (former) JW "brother" who had just come out but still held onto the JW "way" of thinking. He had a daughter who, unfortunately, had 4 or so children by 2-4 different men. I do not share this to judge HER, so please don't think this is about that. It isn't. Anyway, this man was unable to accept his daughter's children. One day, he and I were talking and what he said blew my MIND (but what I said in return blew HIS even more!). When I asked him why he was having such a hard time accepting them, his response was that he didn't really know who the father of each child TRULY was, and so how did he know if he was even the grandfather?? And he said this with a very strong air of self-righteousness. How as he supposed to love these children... when he wasn't even sure if he was their grandfather?
I was blown away. I thought, "Huh??? What then...??!!" I mean, I couldn't believe he even HAD such a thought. Because, as I said to him:
"Brother, I don't understand. Regardless of WHO the childrens'
FATHERS are... they are the children of YOUR
DAUGHTER. And so STILL... YOUR grandchildren. Even if the father's wanted to dispute
their paternity, there is NO WAY she can deny MATERNITY. And so, whether you all know who their PATERNAL grandfather it, you CERTAINLY know who their MATERNAL grandfather is. You!"
I mean, I was flabbergasted that this man thought, that because he wasn't sure who the FATHERS of the children were, he wasn't sure if HE was their grandfather!
What blew my mind even more... was seeing the "light" go on in HIS eyes... when REALIZED the truth of what I had just said! Blew HIS mind. But blew MINE because I couldn't fathom HOW he had even come to THINK as he had, that perhaps the children weren't HIS grandchildren, although by his DAUGHTER... because there was question as to who their
fathers were!
How does one THINK like that???? I truly did not and do not understand.
And so this matter, here. And a LOT of Jehovah's Witnesses "think"
like this. Not as to who their grandchildren are/aren't, etc., but like as in similarly. The PROCESS. As do a lot of EX-Jehovah's Witnesses, as I observed on other sites over the past 20 years or so. Stuff that just makes absolutely NO sense. Couldn't add up no matter HOW you slice it. And they say such things ALL the time. Like the gentleman who recently visited me.
Yes, I know, I know... there are those who think what I say/share makes no sense, either. But that's simply what they THINK; they cannot, however, make a logical... heck, reasonable... argument to the contrary.
Anyway, as you can see, the lack of SENSE, let alone logic... in this particular assertion (by your friend)... when held up to the "light" of the teachings of the WTBTS as to "who" DOES go to heaven... is just... ridiculous. If their "good" "anointed" folks do, and all of their "anointed" go... and they go because Christ came down and died for them... then "Jesus'" coming down and dying was NOT for nothing. It was for THEM.
Please... tell him that, for ME, next time you see him.
Peace to you... and this is what you get when you mix pain meds with posting after a day of work and an evening of school... so your patience (if you got to this point), is GREATLY appreciated - LOLOLOL!
YSSFS of Christ,
Shel