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| Author: | JustJoe [ Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Probably mentioned before, but worth mentioning again... |
I read this over on JWN... a simple question: How many of the apostles were anointed when Christ had them partake? Answer: Zero None of them were "anointed" until holy spirit was poured out on the 120. That is when they received what was promised (Acts 1:4) |
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| Author: | tec [ Mon Sep 01, 2014 4:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Probably mentioned before, but worth mentioning again... |
Amen, and yes, worth mentioning again. Peace to you Leaving, your sister and servant, and fellow slave of Christ, tammy |
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| Author: | AGuest [ Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Probably mentioned before, but worth mentioning again... |
Absolutely worth mentioning again, dear LQ ( peace to you!). Something I tried to tell my "elders" during one of my many JC meetings... along with the fact that the account re the 120... and the number of folks in the upper room at Pentecost were not the same. Sadly, the erroneous teaching of many, including the WTBTS, has led to the perpetuation of that error. A (re) reading of the accounts, however, will show that Luke not only wrote about two different groups... but two different days. Thank YOU, though, for the wonderful, and hopefully "eye" opening for some, reminder! Peace to you! YSSFS of Christ, Shel |
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| Author: | Justmom [ Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Probably mentioned before, but worth mentioning again... |
leaving_quietly wrote: I read this over on JWN... a simple question: How many of the apostles were anointed when Christ had them partake? Answer: Zero None of them were "anointed" until holy spirit was poured out on the 120. That is when they received what was promised (Acts 1:4) Very simply put. Thanks for resharimg this, Your sister and fellow slave of CHRIST, Kim |
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| Author: | JustJoe [ Mon Sep 01, 2014 6:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Probably mentioned before, but worth mentioning again... |
See, now, I would not have noticed that, Shelby, had you not brought it up. But, to see it properly, we have to use more than just the NWT, including using a Greek Interlinear. Although the NWT does give us a clue. First, they arrive in Jerusalem and go to the upper room where they were staying. (Acts 1:13) Next, we see a phrase in the NWT in Acts 1:15, "During those days". What "days"? Presumably the days when they were in Jerusalem. Finally, we get to the mention of Pentecost at Acts 2:1. The NWT would have us believe it was "in progress". "Now while the day of the Festival of Pentecost was in progress, they were all together at the same place." But, looking at the NIV, we see a different translation: When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. The NIV gives the very distinct impression that Pentecost was NOT at the same time as what was referred to in chapter 1. The Greek word, symplērousthai (Strong's 4845), means "I fill completely; pass: I am completed", and can transliterate to "arriving of". Thus, the NIV gives the correct impression when it says that Pentecost "came". It was not "in progress" as NWT gives the impression. For reference, KJV says: "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come." I can see, for my own eyes, that Pentecost is not the same as when the 120 were gathered. How many were gathered? The account does not say. Just "they were all together". Could it have been all 120? Perhaps. Were they in the upper room? Unlikely, unless that was one large upper room. |
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| Author: | AGuest [ Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Probably mentioned before, but worth mentioning again... |
Smile. Peace to you, dear brother... and glad you now have "eyes" to "see" (the truth)! LOLOLOL! YSSFS of Christ, Shel |
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