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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:12 pm 
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Hey JustMom..

I remember the Paradise lost book..
It was one of my 1st children's books..
This was the WBT$ Horror JW Kids were fed on a daily basis..

Not Even Your Dog Or Bicycle Were Safe!..
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:17 pm 
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Geezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz they want to be all technically hip with the jw.org, the tablets, utube, etc.....
how old skool is it NOT TO HAVE THESE FEATURES IN PLACE ON YOUR SITE?
LOL...ITS THE 'DUH' FACTOR FOLKS......sKally


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:25 pm 
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Justmom wrote:
I too was a JW child from 6 on...

This stuff would have never been tolerated as my momma stressed with me that " the truth " is serious and no games to be played with.

Armageddon was coming in my lifetime before I was even a teen so the message was always serious, the pictures and reality like the " orange" paradise lost to paradise regained book that I had to study before the truth book.

Everyone but us would be destroyed, and she pulled me out of a Christian school in the first grade and said, " silly to waste your time coloring pictures of Jesus."

There is much more serious work to be done and if I wanted to quit high school in the early 1975 and pioneer she would support me 100%!

So, it seems the work is not as crucial as it was when I was growing up. The silly cartoons are among the JWs. The same things they used to condemn other religions for doing. Ooh my ooh my....what would my momma say today of she were alive?...

She would say as she had always said, " just don't question it, just do it!"

Love and peace to all,
Kim



Kim, i sure wish you would post that over 'there'. It is read by many. I think what you said is another entirely point of merit to be addressed. I did not even think about that factor. You are so right in your observations of this.

THIS IS THE EXACT TYPE OF FEEDBACK WT SHOULD HEAR, AND ON THEIR SITE, UNDER EACH VIDEO, HAVE A COMMENT SECTION. CAN I READ UR POST TO GENERAL COUNSEL? I PROMISE TO ONLY READ THE WORDS AS IF THEY ARE COMING FROM ME. IT IS SO ON TARGET. I BET THEY DID NOT EVEN GIVE THAT ANY CONSIDERATION. IT'S A GREAT ISSUE TO RAISE. {caps intended to shine upon the topic brilliantly}

The orange "INNOCENSE LOST IN 1.1SECONDS AFTER READING THIS BOOK" SHOULD HAVE BEEN A BANNED PIECE OF TRASH. IT INCITED SO MUCH HATE IN US CHILDREN FOR OTHERS OF THE WORLD. AND INSTILLED SUCH TREMENDOUS FEAR IN US IF WE DID NOT OBEY J-GOD IN TRYING TO RECRUIT OTHER KIDS.

lONG AGO, BEORE I WAS INTRODUCED TO RAYS BOOK AND STARTED MY RESEACH, MY MOM HAD A RELATIONSHIP W/ MY DAUGHTER....SHE GAVE HER THAT TOXIC WASTE AND I TRASHED IT IMMEDIATELY. TOLD HER, IT WAS NOT FOR CHILDREN EVEN THO SHE WAS TOLD DIFFERENTLY. AND THAT I'D EXPLAIN WHEN SHE GOT A BIT OLDER. {WHICH I DID EVENTUALLY}

Any child forced to look at that book, not mentioning, forced to STUDY it....is A VICTIM OF SPIRITUAL RAPE AND MENTAL ABUSE. WITH EMOTIONAL ABUSE A CLOSE SECOND. IF THAT IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND, I CANNOT HELP YOU.

Thank you so much for sharing Kim.

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OUTLAW wrote:
Hey JustMom..

I remember the Paradise lost book..
It was one of my 1st children's books..
This was the WBT$ Horror JW Kids were fed on a daily basis..

Not Even Your Dog Or Bicycle Were Safe!..
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This page always disturbed me. It scared the crap outta me. I couldn't believe a God of love would do this to a child and a dog. But now I realize, it is Jehovah that would do this, not Jah! Those poor people!

Thanks for the gruesome reminder LOL....Kim


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it is Jehovah that would do this, not Jah!


:8O :8O :8O :8O :8O :8O

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OUTLAW: Would you mind pointing out that issue of jw.org having no features such as what i just spoke of, into that thread, just to get some feedback on THAT particular issue....or make a new thread for it?.....sKally

Thats been brought up many,many,many times..
The WBT$ can`t afford to have any feed back that isn`t 100% WBT$ Approved..
They`d be torn to shreds on their own web site..
You and I would be on there for sure..
Could you imagine the problems that would create for the WBT$??!!..LOL!!..
The WBT$ Web Site would be a friggin War Zone..

OUTLAW and sKally Visit the WBT$ Web Site..
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yes i know its been discussed, yet this needs to be FOCUSed on and hopefully otherrs will call and some lurkers will call...and ask about these videos or give their feedback on them. if u could point out how easy it is to do, provide the number and let the people ponder it a while.

i'd like to see wt get blasted with phone calls, and telling them that they are calling directly, cuz theres no place n the site to do so. tto drive the issue with them.. contend with them on this issue. COULD U IMAGINE IF THEY LISTENED TO FEEDBACK AND SAID, WE BETTER DO SOMETHING, WE CANT KEEP TAKING ALL THESE CALLS EVERY DAY.? I DONT SEE HOW THIS COULD NOT PRODUCE SOMETHING. EITHER WT COMES OUT AND SAYS , HEY WE NOW HAVE A FORUM, WITH JOHNNY THE BETHELITE AS HEAD MODERATOR...OR THEY KEEP TAKING CALLS. THEN WE TELL THEM, IF THEY STOP ANSWERING THE PHONE, WE WILL TRAVEL TO BROOKLYN, BUT WE DONT WANT ANNY BIBLES...WE WANT DISCUSSION ON POLICIES AND LAWSUITS..

BUT THATS WHY THE MOVED TO THE BOONEYS OF NEW YORK, ISNT IT?

BWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH OK{it is fully charged....bb soon}

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2014 1:50 pm 
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LOL OUTLAW, weigh on THIS doll:

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You see, when I WITNESS this stuff online, I envision a jw elder at my door trying to cram this toxic waste down my throat, and i get all excited inside in how i'm going to contend with It. Like, like right now would be a awesome if they knocked on my door. lolololool soooooooooo, the reason i do phone calls, and i told this to brumleys office, is because i have questions and your site does not provide a forum or chat for ANYONE to ask you anything. And because in my mind, going straight to the horses mouth seems more logical than asking a bunch of strangers and klowns online, where anyone can be anything they want; even you and your I.T. team at brooklyn....they can pretend to be a bethelote in a closet somewhere, but it is actually tony morris in his office with all the lights on and the phone is on speaker.!!

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Skally....love and peace to you....

As much as this is the truth and we all here know it as to how the WTBS works and thinks....I have found that people need to understand the real reason as to why and who is behind this WTBS and from where it receives " its power and authority " ( Revelation 13:3&4 ) and to understand that it is as evil as it is because of the adversary's breath/ spirt that gives it its life.

But I also realize that as it is out there for people to see, it is only if our lord allows them to see the truth of it based on their own hearts. If they are asking for HIM/ CHRIST to show them the truth of it, then they can and will be led TO HIM! It will take HIM to heal them, cure them of this awful abuse that has gone on a lifetime.

If they do not allow HIM to heal them, take them by the hand, lead them as HIS sheep, take his yoke, and understand they can come into union with him, then many come out angry, lost, without faith in him altogether because of what the WTBS did. And that is exactly what they want to happen if they at least cannot keep a hold on you inside.

So although I realize the importance of sharing just how ugly and cruel they are....I realize more importantly sharing the cure! And for me it has been my Lord! And it is continual progress because of so much abuse.

Thank you for sharing and the work you so as well,
Love Justmom ( Kim)


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You see, when I WITNESS this stuff online, I envision a jw elder at my door trying to cram this toxic waste down my throat.....sKally


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ohhhhhhhhhhhhhahahaha ahhhhhhhhhahaha beautiful depiction doll {applause}

just got off phone after being put on hold after drilling this old fart who would not let me talk to the guy i've been talking to....he kept repeating "go to contact us on our page or write a letter.


i told him nope, i'm gonna keep calling and have other JWS CALL AND ASK ABOUT A FORUM. Which, incidently, i could hear another man, saying "general counsel, how can i direct your call?". I surely do hope more people do this, and tell wtt why they are. and i told him i'm going to encourage the jws to call the general counsel number[ i've had that direct number for some time now...lolol] and ask for a forum. i said, it's the jws site too, right? no wonder they go all over the net, the site isn't even FOR them. you do not provide them a safe place.....its as if its a game of sorts. i said loads nmore, but this old guy just kept saying go our site, i kept saying...i'm on your site now....and want to talk about these videos but cant so i called. and i'll be calling again. When he said it one more time, i said "look i'm not a sheep...i'm not going to obey you and write a stupid letter when you can talk to me right here and now." he asked if i was a jw. i said i was not an active bapt publisher, no. but i read all your stuff and watch the videos, but theres no where to discuss any of it. so much more was said.

I said i'm going to make go to the kh this sunday, and i am, and tell the p.o. that i went to the site, viewed certain videos and read articles and have many questions and concerns about the welfare for the children in your organization, after viweing it. BUT THAT THERE WAS NO WHERE TO ASK THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE IT OR MADE THE VIDEOS. SO I CAME HERE.

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thats cool mom. i just thought it would be useful to a wider scope of viewers to see what you, your SELF touched on here.

just paste it over there. it's useful and some may relate. why not share it everywhere?

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i'm on hold...i asked if bethel in italy was sold wiyh more details to come in a few months.............old fart got back on, asked him...he put me on hold..............oh yeaaaaaaaaaa

now i am ON THEIR NERVES....The nice guy just got fed up!! bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh and hung up.

imagine me doing this with 6screens...and having them on a 3 way call lololo the possibilities are endless.

so yea, they just keep sayin to write w/ ur concerns....letters make it easy for them to just say what they want and thats the end of it. i'm not gonna keep writing back and forth snailmail when WE HAVE THE INTERNET. LOLOLOL

CAN I GET A WITNESS!!

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but this old guy just kept saying go our site.....sKally


You called to talk to someone at the WBT$..
Theres no one to talk to at JW.ORG..He knows it`s pointless..
The WBT$ does everything in their power to stop any conversation..
Your not supposed to talk..Just listen..
What a Jerk..
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So i am confirmed for 2morrows 2:30pm program again. he said he wants me on every show. lol pray tell.

so, cool...i get to target a wider audience.

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