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Both "coming to know" and "taking in knowledge" are accurate renderings of the word ginōskōsin (Strong's 1097). The issue likes in what WTBTS teaches about this phrase. They teach that we must keep STUDYING about God to know him. However, a super-quick reading about what ginōskōsin really means gives us the proper idea:

1097 ginṓskō – properly, to know, especially through personal experience (first-hand acquaintance). 1097 /ginṓskō ("experientially know") is used for example in Lk 1:34, "And Mary [a virgin] said to the angel, 'How will this be since I do not know (1097 /ginṓskō = sexual intimacy) a man?'"
(emphasis mine)

Thus, this rendering means much more than just learning ABOUT God and his son. It's about EXPERIENCING them first-hand.

Google Glass and Studying the Bible



http://www.ucg.org/blog/google-glass-and-studying-bible/

mornin wheelie

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"I am proud to say that I will not lift one finger ( except my middle finger) for the WTBTS."

Well, the day Christ died is a very confusing subject, I'm finding. I have not studied the gospel accounts (just looked at a few verses) and I've read some articles online. It seems like to me, it would have fit the timeline of three days and nights better if he died on Wednesday.

But then, there would have had to be a day in between the two Sabbath days for the women to buy and prepare spices.

And I don't see that he arose on Sunday morning, but could have been some time before that, before they discovered the tomb was empty.

Like I said, very confusing for me. But something about the parts of the three days, Shelby, just doesn't jibe for me. You're probably going to have to drag that chart out after all.

I will, dear At (mornin' and peace to you). Gotta take pic then upload, etc. so will do in a bit. I the meantime, maybe it will help to NOT look at this in terms of 24-HOUR "days"... but days of the week? In which case, our dear Lord dying during the DAY on THURSDAY (based on the non-Jewish week), equates to:

1. 3 DAYS = Thursday to Friday (1 day)... Friday to Saturday (2 days)... Saturday to Sunday (3 days)... with him being gone PARTS of Thursday and Sunday...

2. 3 NIGHTS = Thursday NIGHT... Friday NIGHT... and Saturday NIGHT.

I'll get the chart up in a little while!

Peace!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar

We CAN know, without a doubt, though, dear LQ (mornin' and peace to you, dear one!)... which is MEANT:

1. The "UNION"
2. That makes us a "BRIDE"
3. And so ONE SPIRIT (with Christ)
4. As Eve was ONE FLESH (with Adham)

She (Eve)... not only came OUT of Adham... and so was flesh of HIS flesh and bone of HIS bone... she JOINED to him again WITH that flesh! She joined her flesh to his... and so he came KNOW her PHYSICALLY. Why? To "BEAR FRUIT"... OF the flesh ("Be FRUITFUL...").

And it is the same for us: we, who come out of CHRIST... by means of anointing with holy spirit... become (in essence) "flesh" of HIS flesh... and "bone" of HIS bone (Ephesians 5:30)... and are PROMISED to him... so that by means of HIM... we, too, can "BEAR FRUIT"... NOW... and later by means of the SPIRIT bodies we receive FROM him... the WHITE "robe"... which is IN REALITY... flesh OF HIS flesh and bone OF HIS bone... SPIRIT flesh and bone... WITH which we are again joined TO him... to bear even MORE FRUIT!!

The fruit... OF THE SPIRIT!

It is "knowing"... in the sense of the Hebrew word "yada"... as when a man (Christ) and a woman (his Bride, those of the NEW "Jerusalem")... are joined so as to become ONE. SPIRIT. As a man and woman of flesh become one FLESH when THEY join.

Hence, our dear Lord says to US:

"Remain IN me... and I... IN you... because APART from ME... YOU can do NOTHING (i.e., BEAR FRUIT) ... at ALL!"

And so, just as a woman CANNOT produce a child... or fruit... WITHOUT (seed from) a man... WE cannot bear/produce SPIRITUAL fruit... APART from the SEED of the TREE (of Life)... in which we are BRANCHES.

Others may be able to produce SOME fruit... but as we all pretty much attest to here... WE cannot, without help from our dear Lord! He is not concerned with others, though... but only those concerned with HIM. As any promised/engaged man would be!

I hope this helps!

Peace to you all!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar

Okay, dear At (peace, luv!)... here's my chart (my apologies for the skewed direction - still can't fix that!):



Took me awhile because I apparently had to more to be given to share with you dear ones. I will start by sharing that our dear Lord died in the flesh around 3pm on Nisan 14, in the Hebrew year 3790, a Thursday, which corresponds to April 3rd in the year "30" (NOT 33!) of the Gregorian calendar. He celebrated HIS Passover meal at the very beginning of that day, (which I misstated as "Nisan 13" because I thought that might make more sense to those who know "Nisan" from the WTBTS' rhetoric re "Nisan 14"). Now, here is what I received from my Lord today regarding this truth and the WTBTS celebration:

Although they don't know it, the WTBTS' celebration date is accurate (although NOT the date our dear Lord shared HIS meal!). The WTBTS teaches that Nisan 14 was the Jewish Passover. It was not. The PREPARATION (of the lamb, etc.) FOR the Passover had to take place on the "fourteenth day of the month," but was actually EATEN, along with unfermented cakes, the NEXT day (after the sun went down, which started the next day)... or on the 15th.

And that is the "day" that the WTBTS passes their bread and wine: Nisan 15th, not Nisan 14th! If they were to celebrate the occasion on the day our dear Lord did, they would have to do it the night BEFORE, starting on Nisan 13th... and moving into Nisan 14th (after sundown). They start it on the 14th, however, and so move into the 15th by the time they pass the emblems.

The REASON the WTBTS' does on that day... which IS the Jewish Passover (but, again, NOT the day our dear Lord did it, so their proclamation that he did it on Nisan 14 is TRUE... but he did during the FIRST part of that day, not the LAST part, as they do)... is because they are doing what their ANCESTORS (or, those who are similarly "generated" - remember that explanation?) did. Here's what that is:

At the end of Nisan 13th, before the sun went down, our Lord has HIS Passover prepared, and after sundown, shared that meal with his friends, our dear brothers. At about midnight, they left the room where they dined, went to Gethsemane, and in the wee hours of the morning, he was arrested. For the next several hours, he was trucked back and forth between Herod and Pilate, tried, then eventually impaled... dying at about 3pm.

HE, however, as the PASSOVER LAMB... for the JEWS. And so, his trial, etc., was their "Preparation" before their "slaughtering" of HIM as Israel's lamb. So, for them to have observed it when HE did... would have meant THEY had actually EATEN of their "lamb" BEFORE it (he) was even slaughtered. But that was not the case. Rather, once he was impaled and died, he BECAME that "lamb." BUT... they did not partake of him! They didn't even acknowledge him AS their "sacrificial lamb." John 11:49-52

And that is EXACTLY the same as their "offspring", the WTBTS. They celebrate the TRUE Passover (date) of FLESHLY Israel... starting the night of the 15th... and they celebrate it in the same way as the Jews of those days did: by REFUSING to acknowledge the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)... as THEIR "Passover Lamb"... by IGNORING his command to eat his flesh and drink his blood... instead just passing the bread and wine on. And so, having Life (John 14:6) PASS OVER them. Because they REFUSE to "splash" HIS blood on the doorposts of THEIR "houses"... or temples (1 Corinthians 3:16)... they, in essence, refuse to acknowledge him as THEIR saviour... and the Source of Life for THEM... just as Israel did on Nisan 15, 3790... or April 4, 30.

And so, in yet another way they PROVE themselves to be "Israel"... but the hard-headed, hard-hearted, STIFF-necked Isra'El... who are "contenders with God"... versus the "Isra-El" whose heads have been bowed, hearts have been softened, and necks have been turned... those who "LOOK FOR/SEEK God."

Just to add a bit of trivia: the time was considered a "great" sabbath NOT because "Passover happened to fall on..." a certain date that coincided with a "regular" sabbath... but because it was a week out of the year when there was a "holy" festival (the Passover/Festival of Unfermented Cakes combo). EVERY year this is "great" sabbath occurred... at the SAME time... because the Passover/Fest. of Unf. Cakes are holy feasts themselves. So EVERY Passover/Festival week... EVERY year... was a "great" sabbath. Exodus 12:6, 8, 14-20

Here is a link to a calculator that might help:

http://the-light.com/cal/converter/

Note, it will show Nisan 14 (April 3, 30) as a "Wednesday," but that's because the calculator can't show that it is actually "Wednesday/Thursday" by the Gregorian way of counting days (so, notice, no "day" shows for the Hebrew equivalent).

Anyway, I hope this helps!

Again, peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar

Alright So I just got a crash course on this. I feel like my brain is about to explode.

uh.....um...HUH?

Okay, so he died, and rose in 3 days. I think I got that much. Knew that already but.. He did the evening meal ....on the 13th, at the end of the day, died 3pm the 14th.. and rose sunday early. ........got it. I think.


there is a teeennny weeny detail i'm trying to understand:

ok.. um.. When I say this, i'm not saying this to be mean or rude, but trying to understand: What exactly did the apostles eat at the evening meal? I know ti was bread and wine but...It wasn't..symbolic right? i mean it IS his blood and flesh....i is confused. Could you clarify for me please?

Me

Shelby, are you just TRYING to make my head hurt? lol
I may be hopeless understanding this.

Let me ask you this, because there are a few questions still swimming around in my mind: Does being in the heart of the earth begin with his burial or his death?

LOLOLOLOL! Okay, ya'll made me have to get off my phone and onto the computer for this (peace to you, both, dear Voices and Ataloa!) - LOLOLOL!

Okay, dear Voices first: they ate lthe TRADITIONAL Passover meal (lamb, bitter greens, and unfermented cakes) FIRST. THEN, when they were DONE with that meal, our Lord got up, girded himself, then washed their feet. THEN, after he'd done THAT, he passed the bread and wine that he said now represented HIS flesh and blood, that was to BE sacrificed FOR them (and Israel). The FIRST meal is were the bread and wine CAME from... including the bread ("morsel") and he dipped in juice ("sop") and gave to Judas!

So, UNLIKE the WTBTS tradition of folks coming together JUST to [observe] the [partake]ing of the bread and wine, there is a Passover MEAL that comes FIRST. And that is what the Body did on Passover after that point: the regular Passover meal... THEN the bread and wine. That's why Paul chastised those who came to it when he wrote about those who:

1. Ate (too much, from their OWN Passover meal) before hand... and so didn't want to eat of the GROUP meal when they arrived; OR

2. Did not eat (enough, from their OWN Passover meal) before hand... and so tried to eat EVERYTHING when THEY arrived.

What SHOULD happen is that each family have their Passover meal before hand (if a small family, then they should share with other small families... because they had to eat the entire lamb. (Exodus 12:3, 4 THEN, they go to the LARGER gathering, where they share the meal the MASTER instituted. At that meal, there is the same lamb, bitter greens, and cakes... BUT, just enough to make the eating "symbolic." Afterward, there should be feet washing. After THAT, the leftover bread and wine should be passed. IF we want to do "just so"!!

Unfortunately, when you try to show/tell/institute something like that... folks get nervous (I know; been there, tried it! LOL!). But that's understandable, given religion and its rituals and traditions. And especially coming out of the WTBTS, where not only is there no preceding Passover meal, but certainly no feet washing... they just can't handle that. Yet. U mean, I can almost feel some of YOU "breaking out" in a sweat/hives over the very thought! LOLOLOL! But, I learned from my Lord that mercy "triumphs"... and you do/tell/share with folks about this matter what they can handle. At some point, though, we should all have gotten past our FEARS... and moved on the OBEDIENCE... and DO "just so."

So, I asked... is NOW the time, Lord? And, well, it is coming. Now that we KNOW... we'd be hard pressed to have an excuse NOT to do it his way. Will it go against us for NOT doing so? No. It's our FEAR that PREVENTS us from doing so that goes against us. Remember, "perfect love casts ALL fear OUTSIDE," and so, if we are still DEMONSTRATING fear (and ESPECIALLY fear of what others might "think" of us!)... then we haven't perfected our love... nor are we TRULY... IN Christ. We are still OUTSIDE.

Now, dear At - No, girl, I ain't tryin' to hurt your head - LOLOLOL! But I think dear hubby "feels your pain" (I will explain in a sec)! LOLOLOL! For our dear Lord, being in the heart of the earth commenced when he was entombed, which occurred very quickly after his flesh died. The tomb was actually pretty close and so Joseph of Arimethea and Nicodemus where able to lay his body in the tomb after a pretty hasty prep (the ladies came back later to more properly prepare his body). Once entombed (remember, he was buried in the dirt; however, being in a cave is still IN the earth), he could then go even further. Keep in mind, his spirit did not leave his body and go... leaving his body in the tomb: he went, BODY AND SPIRIT... to Sheol. Remember, HIS body COULD transform, from flesh with its blood... to spirit! He showed that with the transfiguration. But he LEFT that body... with its sins/death... IN the grave... and was given ANOTHER, the body of SPIRIT, the "white robe"... to come BACK:

"Then he showed me JAHESHUA the high priest standing before the angel of JAHVEH, and Satan standing at his right side to accuse him. The [angel of] JAHVEH (Jude 9) said to Satan, “JAHVEH rebuke you, Satan! JAHVEH, who has chosen Jerusalem, rebuke you! Jude 9 Is not this man a burning stick snatched from the fire?” Jude 23

"Now JAHESHUA was dressed in filthy clothes as he stood before the angel. The angel said to those who were standing before him, “Take off his filthy clothes.”

"Then he said to JAHESHUA, “See, I have taken away your sin, and I will put fine garments on you.”

"Then He said, “Put a clean turban on his head.” So they put a clean turban on his head and clothed him, while the angel of JAHVEH stood by." Zechariah 3:3-5

The reason you see the transition in speech here, between JAHVEH and the angel (who seemed to have authority) is because JAH spoke to our dear Lord through Michael... because Christ was still too UNCLEAN to go before JAH Himself. Remember, their are angels posted at the gates/entry to the "garden." So, our dear Lord had the filthy "clothes" (unclean garments or unclean OUTER robe) he was "wearing" put OFF... FIRST... and a new CLEAN outer garment (clothes/robe) put ON. And so Michael was given authority to do that, have the filthy flesh (filthy, because it carried IN it ALL the sins of mankind, both physical AND spiritual, IN it) put OFF, and a NEW garment... the WHITE "robe" of a CLEAN spirit body... put ON.

Hence, when our Lord WENT... he went with ONE body... and returned with ANOTHER. What confuses some is the "change" some of us will experience: some believe he merely "changed", too, and so came back with the same body. But that wasn't the case with him. Those who are "changed"... NEVER die. Those who DIE are resurrected, however, to NEW bodies. Just like our dear Lord had one set of (outer) garments (or body) taken OFF... and was given ANOTHER, CLEAN set of garments (body)... so will those who die before he returns. Our dear Lord DIED and was RESURRECTED, and so, like those who die and are resurrected, HE was given a NEW garment (versus having his "old" one "changed"). John 11:25, 26; 1 Corinthians 15:42-49; 52-54; Zechariah 3:3-5

Of course, that raises the question: if those who die are given a NEW body, what's wrong with cremation? The thing with cremation isn't the BODY, dear ones; it is the SPIRIT. Cremation completely destroys DNA... so when looking for the SPIRIT of such a one... there is nothing TO resurrect; the SPIRIT has been destroyed. So long as there is a bit of DNA, JAH can reconstruct a body (of flesh) as well as give the spirit a body of SPIRIT. But... no LIFE (i.e., no spirit)... nothing TO give a body TO.

So, I hope that helps you dear ones!

As always, peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar

I knew that cremation was not a good thing but....all the people that have been cremated...will not be resurrected then? Cause their spirits have been destroyed?

So what if I took my mom's hair, and locked it into a safe, and she wanted to be cremeated? Would that suffice? I have a feeling if my mom passes, there might be a fight over this.

FUNNY thing: My dad was cremated. But They wanted me and brother to 'push the buttom.' And when we did, NOTHING happened. It didn't get 'ignited.' Then the 'maintence man' was standing right next to us and 2 seconds later 'tried and tested the button' and it immediately worked. I always thought that was peculiar, almost as if The Spirit didn't want US to be responsible to push that button.

Me

WHEW, ya'll DO be giving a girl-servant a run for her money, though (peace to you all!) - LOLOLOL! Let me just say, though, that your inability to understand the timeline of our dear Lord's death, etc. (until now, right? LOLOL!)... is NOTHING compared to what I went through with dear hubby yesterday! Talk about not gettin' it! LOLOLOL! He finally did, though, of course... but he gave me permission to share this (because it might also help those of you who might need just a bit more assistance)... so I will - LOLOL!

Yesterday, He was ADAMANT that:

1. Our dear Lord ate the Passover on the SAME day as the Jews; and

2. That the Jews ate at the BEGINNING of Nisan 14 (because of the command as to when to slaughter the Lamb, "between the two evenings"); and

3. The Passover and Feast of Unfermented Cakes were on two SEPARATE days and NEVER done together; and so

4. The chronology was:

- ALL ate, including Christ and his friends, just after dark on Nisan 14 (Wednesday evening by OUR account, but Thursday, by the Jewish "day")

- Then he did his meal (right after) with his friends (still Wednesday evening by our account, but Thursday by the Jewish "day")

- Then they went out and he was arrested in the wee hours of the morning (now Thursday by both accounts)... tried (that morning, Thursday, by both accounts)... and impaled (Thursday, mid morning, by both accounts)

- Then he died about 3pm on Nisan 14 (Thursday afternoon); and

- The NEXT day (starting Thursday evening by OUR account and Friday by Jewish "day") was the Festival of Unfermented Cakes AND the Sabbath.

But that's not accurate. THAT... is :strongly-entrenched" WTBTS erroneous teaching (which dear Hubby didn't think he STILL had! LOLOL!). So, I kept trying to tell dear Hubby the chronology our dear Lord was telling ME (and dear Hubby DID say, "Well, you gotta go with what HE's saying to you, Shel, of course!" but I could SEE he couldn't receive it... yet! LOLOL!). So, I held strong, because my Lord kept telling ME:

1. "No, child, I ate with my friends the day BEFORE [the Jews had their celebration]"; and

2. "No, the Passover and Festival of Unfermented Cakes are celebrated TOGETHER, child. That was the command."; and

3. "Israel COMMENCED the Passover on the 14th of Nisan, child, between the two evenings, but actually ATE it after SUNDOWN and so on the 15th... WITH the unfermented cakes, as was the command"; and

4. "I celebrated it with my friends the day BEFORE (preparing it on the 13th, between the two evenings, then eating it after sundown, the 14th)... because I WAS THE PASSOVER LAMB... FOR the Jews. Which "lamb"... and life... THEY passed OVER.

5. Hence, Israel prepared for THEIR Passover ON the 14th... then ate it, with the unfermented cakes... on the 15th, starting THAT Festival."

And so, he gave me verses to share with dear Hubby to try and help:

1. As for the Passover and Festival being celebrated together, both started on the SAME day, with the Passover being ONE day, and the Festival CONTINUING for seven days - Exodus 12:6-20 The false teaching of the WTBTS and others is that the Passover occurred FIRST, then the Festival the FOLLOWING day. That is partially true: the Passover starts at the END of the 14th of Nisan (or between the two evenings, when the lamb is slaughtered, which is just BEFORE sundown, which starts the 15th) and includes unfermented bread... and is EATEN... after sundown... and the Festival starts at the BEGINNING of the 15th of Nisan.

The error is based on the misunderstanding of the time frame of the "14th" and "15th" days of Nisan... and HOW the Passover and Festival were INITIATED:

Passover - STARTS when the lamb is slaughtered "between the two evenings" which is NOT after sundown but before it's completely dark. It is when the sun IS IN ITS DESCENT... UNTIL sundown. So, from about 3pm until about 6pm. At about 6pm, a NEW days starts. So, they had to slaughter the lamb BEFORE the NEW day started. For the Jews, then, the Passover STARTED about 3pm on Nisan 14, when the lamb was slaughtered.

This CORRESPONDS to when our dear Lord... THE PASSOVER LAMB... died... on Nisan 14.

Festival - STARTS when the Passover meal is EATEN... AFTER sundown... and so on the 15th of the month (a few hours after the close of the 14th).

Because HE was the lamb to be slaughtered FOR Israel, our dear Lord did HIS observance a full day BEFORE: they "prepared" and slaughtered on Nisan 13th... and ate on Nisan 14th. For the JEWS:

1. They did traditional preparation on the 14th, then ate on the 15th. BUT... as to HIM, as their "lamb"... their whole business of arresting and trying, etc., him... was their PREPARATION... for the "Passover" that HE was;

2. They slaughtered their traditional lamb around 4-5pm, or "between the two evenings" on the 14th... AFTER they had HIM "slaughtered"... at 3pm (still "between the two evenings) on the 14th... and ate their TRADITIONAL Passover mean, along with the unfermented cakes (thus, starting the Festival), just after.

Now, dear hubby was STILL hung up on our dear Lord NOT eating HIS passover on the commanded date (as is most, including the WTBTS). Because he, of course, kept the Law. However, while it was a violation to slaughter the lamb and start the festival LATE (i.e., on the 15th/16th)... there was no law against starting it EARLY. Even so, there is NO law against LOVE... and it was FOR love that our Lord DID it early.

Why? Because if he had waited until the date under the LAW... HE WOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN DEAD! Remember, HE was the TRUE sacrificial lamb! But he wanted to at least eat the meal with his dear ones... so he HAD to do it early.

Does the NT support that he DID do it early, though? It does. If you all recall, when they took him to see Pilate, the Jews WOULD NOT GO INTO THE GOVERNOR'S PALACE. Why? Because... THEY DID NOT WANT TO DEFILE THEMSELVES... so that they could STILL eat the Passover"! John 18:28 Hence, THEIR Passover had NOT started... yet, our dear Lord had, by this time, eaten HIS.

Also, do you remember that he said to Judas, AFTER they had all eaten HIS Passover meal, to go get what he was going to do done "more quickly." If you recall, the OTHERS thought he meant as to the "preparation" FOR the Festival. The "preparation," however, INCLUDED getting the lamb ready for slaughter, making the bread, etc. So, he was telling Judas to start the "preparation" for HIS (our dear Lord's slaughter)... in anticipation of the TRUE Passover - HIM... as the TRUE Lamb of God... and "Festival" of UNLEAVENED BREAD... HIS flesh, given... in behalf of Israel AND the world.

I hope this helps, although I know it might seem like a lot. Praise JAH, though... dear hubby GOT IT! He can actually recite it all BACK to me to show he FULLY understands! LOLOL! He said he had NO idea he STILL had some "strongly entrenched things" floating around IN him - LOLOL! But my Lord allowed me to keep going with him... UNTIL he got it... because he (hubby) told me to go with what our Lord was saying versus what HE (hubby) thought. By "humbling" himself in this way, he was given "ears" to hear and "eyes" to see... and he GOT it! WHOOO-HOOO!

Peace to you, all!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar

Praise JAH! Until this was pointed out, I never, ever caught this! You should have seen my face just now!


Christ ALREADY ate the Passover meal, and was subsequently captured and brought before Pilate. That was recorded in John 13. This is LATER, the next day when John 18:28 was recorded.
Then they led Jesus from Ca′ia·phas to the governor’s residence. It was now early in the morning. But they themselves did not enter into the governor’s residence, so that they would not get defiled but could eat the Passover.

Amazing! That's all I can say!

I wanted to see if WTBTS knew about John 18:28, and they do. The Insight book (vol 2, p. 583) says:


Thus, the obligatory Passover, according to this, was the next day. The first one, according to this was the next day. I am unaware of anything about there being a voluntary Passover offering on the first day. This "Alfred Edersheim" was a Reverend. The book is "The Temple: its ministry and services". It calls the Passover offering the "Chagigah". The book says: "The first Chagigah was offered on the 14th of Nisan, the day of the Paschal sacrifice. The second Chagigah was offered on the 15th of Nisan, or the first day of the feast of unleavened bread. It is this second Chagigah which the Jews were afraid they might be unable to eat, if they contracted defilement in the judgment hall of Pilate. In reference to the first Chagigah, the Mishnah lays down the rule, that it was only to be offered if the Paschal day fell on a week-day, not on a Sabbath, and if the Paschal lamb alone would not have been sufficient to give a satisfying supper to the company which gathered around it."

It's BS, dear LQ (peace, luv!)... for both those religious leaders, including Jews, who teach it... and the WTBTS. I am going to post and SHOW you, in just a sec.

Peace, luv... and thanks for keeping the dialogue going!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar

I can see that it might could be most of the three hours on Thursday (where, before, I was thinking maybe 30 minutes or a very close call to the 6 p.m.). But I can't see that it could be ANY of Sunday (as far as daylight goes). But maybe it doesn't matter if they rounded up; you might still have three days according to how they did that - I have no knowledge of that.

Part of what I'm having trouble with is where the women bought spices and prepared them; did they buy them right before Sabbath, as soon as He was laid in the tomb? Then they would have had to wait until Saturday night to prepare them?

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He was buried in dirt? I never heard that. You mean the women were prepared to uncover him to prepare his body better?

As to the rest about him celebrating the day before Passover, that all makes sense (although I'll probably forget how it all fit together in about 5 minutes). I am glad to know that and about the Sabbaths.