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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:47 am 
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Way back when I was about 9 years old my Mom made me walk around with a placard strapped over my body advertising the Watchtower. I was so embarrassed and uncomfortable, I would have much rather had had one of those suitcase on wheels LOL


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:52 am 
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heya shirls! ask em if they can pull up the utube video of the 3yrold giving a talk about rape and genocide at the podium, and what are their thoughts?

take notes, on camphone! good luck

see, this is a PRIME OPPORTUNITY to show the public, while ur standing there with the lethal jws, make sure the public is noticing the video!!!! too!!!! start turning your back on the cart and show the people what tne jws do to their kids, through OBEDIENCE TO THE WT.

tell me about it next weekend. perhaps on 6screens i could, should FOCUS on brainstorming effective creative ways to SHOW THE PUBLIC what goes on in this org, and what dynamics of torture they endure DAILY.

Yes, it's nerve-racking to think to do something of this magnitude. Yet, i assure you, you will see how effective it can be. if you are willing to at least, be willing, first. then put yoir own creative spin to it an try it! JUST TRY IT! O-

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 1:12 pm 
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OUTLAW: I am worried a bit with the photos you posted. Is it legal in your country? Please be careful.


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You don`t go to Jail in Canada for making people Laugh..
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I am not sure if the dear Sher'f has anything to worry about (peace to you, all!)... but WE (the forum) might. Dear Sher'f, my sincere apologies, but I am going to ask that we remove them now, please, as I'm not sure if we fully know their copyrights, etc.? Most have had a chance to see them already, but we don't want to wait until we're "asked" to remove them, so let's just do it, now? I'm sure you understand.

Thanks for the HUGE laugh, though!

Peace!

YSFS of Christ,

Shellamar, who really should have been more responsible/on top of it to begin with. My bad, truly...


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Hey Shelby!..

Those pics are all public..Anyone can google them..
I`ve use them on Simons site for years and never had a problem..
The WBT$ would have went after me already,if they could..
They can`t do a thing about Fair Use..It`s the Law..
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No one from the little man compound in new york is even reading this site. You have nothing to fear from such creatures of this earth. ::)) Silliness.

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Here is a little tool for you to be armed with on the internet, if u r not already in such shape:

take the PROPERTIES fro the photo, by right clicking your mouse. Paste that url into google. when google comes back up, u will see a link that says "search image only". It will then show you all the places the photo is and has been.

Example; put this into google, then click "search image only":

http://media.masslive.com/living_impact ... -large.jpg

They are not copyrighted!!! If they were, the properties feature will be disabled. And it will tell you that you are trying to 'take' a copyrighted picture.

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Thank you (and peace to you!), both. I had thought of fair use when I initially commented but thought, in response to dear ANOMOS' comment (peace, luv!), "Oh, wait; did those come from the WTBTS' website/literature (I kind hate that word, "literature," don't you? I should's said, "stuff" - LOLOL!) and/or were they copywritten.

Moment of panic in concern for OUR site. Over [it] now, so back to "normal" (whatever that is! LOLOL!)

Post [pics] away, dear Sher'f!

Peace to you, both!

Your servant and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar


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If it is OK sorry for the false alarm.
Oh, even if it wasn't they are so busy that they will not notice-this might be the last memorial! LOL!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:35 pm 
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AGuest wrote:
May you ALL have peace!


Being that the Memorial is one of if not the most important JW meeting we couldn't really understand how that could come about. We discussed the potential impact... and then I heard from my Lord, the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit: they will not end the Memorial. BUT... they will one day make some changes... and what they will end is... the passing of the bread and wine. At some point (I do not know if this is the year)... they will conclude that there are none who should partake and so there is no longer a reason to actually pass the "emblems." They will still hold the meeting(s), yes, so the "Memorial" MEETING won't end... but what is DONE at those meetings will.

I state "meeting(s)", plural... because at some point there will be TWO meetings. Just as there is now TWO different WT magazines (one for the public; one for active members). The first will takie place on the usual day, Nisan 14, and will be open to the public. The other, however, will take place 30 days later... and be by invitation only. At first, I thought perhaps all "active" members, but my Lord clarified that, no, it will be a private meeting, by invitation only, for ONLY certain "approved" members. Much like their international convention delegations/practices by organization's like the LDS. For those who think this is way out there, think: remember that some are invited to/receive all manner of things "first" before others. And so there won't be any problem explaining that some will be invited to a "special" Memorial event, but others are not.

During the first (public) meeting, the bread and wine will NOT be passed. Their justification for this is the many non-members, disassociated, DF'd... and others they now label "mentally diseased"... who they opine should NOT partake. They will use their position that such ones are NOT "anointed" and so are "profaning" the event to convince their members that the bread and wine no longer SHOULD be passed at such meeting, but will be done at all.


Servant to the Household of God, Israel, and all those who go with, and a slave of Christ,

Shellamar


Hello shel

Daniel 8:11
It set itself up to be as great as the commander of the army of the LORD; it took away the daily sacrifice from the LORD, and his sanctuary was thrown down.

I was reading over some scriptures with my wife. Each time we read this scripture when talking about the WTBS not offering the memorial to the public, I was shown a picture of a closed door. This is when they take away the daily sacrifice. Because those that are allowed into the special meeting 30 days later do not belong to Jaheshua. so, when they stop the servants of Jah from entering to partake of the daily bread; they are throwing down His sanctuary and setting up their own.

I have shared what I was shown

Your brother in CHRIST

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Thank you, dear FC (peace to you, luv)! That sounds reasonable! Thank you !

Peace!

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Shel


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:14 am 
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I think that makes sense also, FinalCall. Very interesting.


Peace and love to you,
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The prophecies in Daniel intrigue me.

I noticed Daniel 8 includes another number: 2300 days. In this case, because it's convenient for WTBTS to do so, they take this number literally, unlike most other numbers in the Bible that are for "days" (where they use the day-for-a-year rule). However, their explanation is just bizarre:

Daniel's Prophecy p. 177-178 par. 26:
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26 For “the holy place” to be “brought,” or restored, to what it should be, the 2,300 days must have begun when it previously was in the “right condition” from God’s standpoint. At the earliest, this was on June 1, 1938, when The Watchtower published part 1 of the article “Organization.” Part 2 appeared in the issue of June 15, 1938. Counting 2,300 days (6 years, 4 months, and 20 days on the Hebrew calendar) from June 1 or 15, 1938, brings us to October 8 or 22, 1944. On the first day of a special assembly held at Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, U.S.A., on September 30 and October 1, 1944, the Watch Tower Society’s president spoke on the subject “The Theocratic Alignment Today.” At the annual corporate meeting on October 2, the Society’s charter was amended in an effort to bring it as close to a theocratic arrangement as the law would allow. With the publication of clarified Biblical requirements, theocratic organization was soon more fully installed in the congregations of Jehovah’s Witnesses.


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For “the holy place” to be “brought,” or restored, to what it should be, the 2,300 days must have begun when it previously was in the “right condition” from God’s standpoint.

Say what? According to Daniel 8:13, the question was: "How long will the vision of the constant feature and of the transgression causing desolation continue, to make both the holy place and the army things to trample on?" What was Daniel referring to? Verse 11 clues us in: "It exalted itself even against the Prince of the army, and from him the constant feature was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down."

Now, every time this "constant feature" is discussed, it refers to when Christ was put to death, and thus the daily sacrificed ended. But not here. In this instances, WTBTS moves it, perhaps unwittingly, all the way up to June 1 or June 15, 1938. Very interesting.

But even more interesting is what they are saying without saying it. Are they actually saying here that from June 1 or 15, 1938 through October 8 or 22, 1944, the organization was trampled on and not in "the right condition"?

Something more in this prophecy. In verses 23-25, speaking of a king who is "fierce-looking", it says of him:
“And in the final part of their kingdom, as the transgressors act to a completion, a fierce-looking king who understands ambiguous sayings will stand up. 24 His power will become great, but not through his own power. He will bring ruin in an extraordinary way, and he will be successful and act effectively. He will bring mighty ones to ruin, also the people made up of the holy ones. 25 And by his cunning he will use deception to succeed; and in his heart he will exalt himself; and during a time of security he will bring many to ruin. He will even stand up against the Prince of princes, but he will be broken without human hand.

So, this "king" will understand ambiguous sayings. WTBTS has never addressed this phrase. However, it is interesting that WTBTS claims to know what all these prophecies mean, no matter how ambiguous.

Also, notice "during a time of security he will bring many to ruin". This is interesting because the Hebrew word, shalvah (Strong's 7692) means ease, complacency, quietness, prosperity, time of tranquility. A literal reading says "and by peace shall destroy many". I wonder, have translators taken too much liberty with this one to make it say "during a time of security" or "during a time of peace"? It would seem oxymoronic to say that many are destroyed by peace, but that's exactly what it seems to say here (or, perhaps "by complacency many are destroyed". I find this phrase interesting.


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Very interesting, dear LQ (peace to you!). I cannot comment as I have only been given to understand a few things of Daniel (which I won't relate about here so as to keep on topic), none of which relate to the meaning of things you ask about. Nor have I felt compelled to ask about them (but I know that if it is time and/or FOR me to know, it won't be withheld, so...). If I do hear anything, I will certainly share it, just as I hope others will (continue).

In the meantime, I am enjoying the interchange you and others are having!

Peace to you!

YSSFS of Christ,

Shellamar


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