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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:59 pm 
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i said so much stuff about reformists, then realized my phone dropped the callllllllllllllll ughhhhhhhhhh how much of that did u hear?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:33 pm 
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I got all the AAWA stuff..

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2014 8:57 am 
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well, the surprise was the call i made and have on tape to general counsel last week re: why this might be the last MEM and why no emblems were depicted.

however, the audience could only hear my part of the convo, due to the tape not being clear enough over the phone.

my car is acting funny still and i'm nervous that i wont be able to go to my childhood area to attend this thing. it would ideal to do so though, as it may indeed be the last mem and the best opportunity to get some kind of closure with my mom and her husband.

the 101 fwy has two grades....i'm not i want to risk getting stuck on one of them on the way there and never making it entirely.

but then i feel like crap cuz i've told so many that i am going there to DO WORK, and that i am/was resigned in my mission. but in reality....i will most likely attend it here, locally to still DO WORK. It just won't be as profound.

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Bringing it over here, as to not hijack any other thread:

I 4got my notebook to take notes and document names of all the brothers that were introduced on stage, so grabbed the BLOOD TRANSFUSION, JWS, AND MISREP OF TORT pamphlet and used it instead ::)) . There was litterature on the counter and no one was standing there for about 10 seconds, so i slying turn it over and leave it there, w/ my phone, so no one touches it w/ out noticing..and walk into their library.

:8O INSTANT CHILDHOOD MEMORIES OF STUDYING AND VIEWING WHAT WAS ON THOSE SHELFS...HIT ME...BUT I HELD IT 2GETHER and started looking over them all....i saw the nations shall know book thast was tuesday night book study torture....THEN, THERE IT WAS....TANGELLO BOOK. I grabbed it off the shelf and opened up...THE LIBRAY SUDDENLY CLEARED OUT!! ::)) ALL but for this old lady....so this bro comes in, as i'm going over the book, page by page and settle on the page that haunts me still....and he says to her "ahhh u r all alone in here" and starts to guide her out....I FOLLOWED THEM AND SAID, IN REGULAR VOICE ....U ARE NOT ALONE IN HERE, HELLO MY NAME IS....AND THEY ALL, PLUS THE BRO....ACT AS IF THEY DO NOT EVEN SEE ME!!!! OR HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING.....I laughed and walked back into lobby....back over to the counter where the pamph was and this young girls {twenties} hones in on it....i walk right up to it, and my fone...and ask if there is someone i can talk to about questions.....she walks away and a bro comes up to me....lolol little wt men are so fun to play with, from my dress to how i smelled b:/ "is there someone, like a p.o. i could ask questions of please"....thats when all the bros started to pay attention {i have great peripheral vision} AND I MEANT TO THEM TO. He says, how about the speaker who spoke tonight? I said, that is even better.

So, i slide the pamphlet down the counter as i walk away from the corner where the litt is...and wait for the speaker to come over...leaving the pamphlets front cover visable and proceed to ask my questions...........

more on saturday!!

yet here is a sidenote to the dear ol dad thread here.....

i called my dear ol dads numb and he actually answered. i askt if he got my two calls earlier in the week....he said he tried!! bs....my number has never changed and my fone is always near me.... i then said...the memorial is @ this place right? yes he replies....he says, where are you? i said, on my way to there. he asks, why rn't u going locally....i said cuz i have questions, like the kh predicted and i want answers i cant get off the wt site....and u dfed me and then married my mom and i have questions 4 u about that stuff....and this might be last memorial....i said so see ya soon!!....lolololo i did it just to fock with them and ake em squirm in their seats...lololol i'm sure all the while they kept thinking i was gonna walk in there at any moment.....lolololol

so yea, he knows now he is the target of the skally and i wont take no for an answer....i feel no sympathy for those two ....after last night...these people are where they WANT to be.....

i dont give them any excuses ....after the cold reception last nite, even though I KNEW WHAT THE KM INSTRUCTED THEM AS TO HOW TO TREAT THE PUBLIC WHEN THEY ATTEND THIS RITUAL.....THEY FAILED ON EVERY LEVEL...EXCEPT FOR ONE WOMAN NAMED LINDA...SHE WAS THE LOVEBOMBER ::))

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:24 pm 
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wow, this is basically exactly the same encounter what occured for me last night where i went...except....there was silence as the emblems were passed...but for the one little girl who was taking out twice by her mom, who held her hand tightly over that childs mouth >:) {BIOTCH!!...I kept a mean eye on her as she walked into the lobby the second time, holding her daughters mouth:

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Our Memorial was held at a Music hall with roughly 1300-1400 in attendance. There was a guest speaker from bethell, guess who?? Andre! His actual name was Cornelius Powell.

My thoughts- There were 10 congregations present, with many people who were clearly guests and visitors. I wont go into tremendous detail but it was striking how little attention was actually paid to Jesus on "his day" All the focus seemed to be on Jehovah for how he made this great sacrifice by giving his son.. very little about appreciating the one who actually came down..

I remember the days when much of the memorial talk consisted of reading from the gospel accounts of Jesus arrest, experience with Caiphas, Pilate, his scourging, humiliating things he went through, and just how special his sacrifice should be to us. It used to seem more personal and warm.

The atmoshphere yesterday was very corporate and cold. Literally half of the outline consisted of Andre lecturing us on who should and should NOT partake.. Going on and on about how "we all know that clearly the bible holds out two hopes" and how only a VERY SMALL NUMBER are going to heaven. He said, if you ever wanted to live on a beautiful earth forever than yu have the earthly hope. Then somewhat contadictorily he said "many people say you have to be born again, but just like being born onto this earth, you have no say in it. It is Jehovahs decision to make not ours. If we were to partake of the crakers and wine unworthily, it would be wrong like steealing something. Even if what he said was true, it made the memorial which is supposed to be about Jesus into a lecture on JW doctrine.. very cold and soulless. He basically said no one here should be partaking, he kept speaking for everyone saying OUR hope is on the earth. Another 25% of the talk was reading the Isiah Jewish restoration prophecies and saying how it promises a paradise earth (it does not if you read the context) The JWs are really not spiritual people but fleshly and materialistic. The focus on the new system betrays them because it shows that they are not serving for spiritual reasons, but so they can "get theirs" He kept hyping up the playing with animals, perfect health, no more sickness or frailty (half the audience was hacking away coughing like they had TB so it probably sounded good to them). I kept thinking, what does any of this have to do with Jesus?

Another 25% of the talk dealt with how this should not be the only meeting you attend, but you need to attend the local KH if you want to be saved.

A couple things in the talk made me sick and made my jaw drop, which it is hard to do. Correct me if Im wrong but dont the scriptures speak about being servants of Christ? Dosent Paul say that? ANdre made a point of saying that the annointed "serve Jehovah and respect Jesus" !! OMG that was the first really sick moment. I am agnostic but it still upset me. They take everything away from Jesus, even what the scriptures CLEARLY say is due him! Does not the Bible say that in Jesus name even the knees of angels should bend, and even angels bow to him?? However all "christs brothers" are to give him is lousy respect???

The most puke worthy of all was this/... This literally made my mouth hang open! My wife saw it but made no comment. When the bread began to be passed, Andre said "I would like to take this time while the bread is passed to bring out some features of JW.org"!!! What the F*&K? He rendered the whole thing a cheap ad for JW.org. I was so SHOCKED! And thats not easy to do. He went over the FAQ page under the heading "how do we benefit from Christs ransom" and kept encouraging all visitors to check out the site..

During the passing of the wine, he DID IT AGAIN! "I would like to bring your attention back to JW.org under the heading Myths and facts about the ressurection" He went down the line listing facts and "myths" about the resurection. (all I could think is that todays fact is tomorrows myth with the introduction of "nu lite") Anyways he kept listing JW doctrine against what "christendom" teaches. tHIS became full fledged JW infomercial. I felt it was in extremely poor taste and classless. Again, nothing about Jesus other than "in Jesus name Amen" during the lifeless prayers. And about the prayers, the brothers kept going on about "the truth" and "the world" and other offensive JW only loaded language, leaving the non JWs bewildered.

Maybe its just me that felt it was cold, the audience was smiling and gave a long, extended round of applause afterwards. It made me sick, and by some of the looks of people around me, many were not very impressed.

Final thought- The JWs seem to go out of their way to show "worldy people" that yes we believe in Jesus etc.. Well they dropped the ball because when they show up, they see it really isnt about Jesus at all but Jehovah which= the organization. I remember in years past (I dont mean last year) the talk being less about JW doctrine, more about Jesus and actully appreciating him and going over what happened to him from the gospels. Instead now they read the OT and advertise for JW.org and lecture and browbeat how no one is worthy to take the emblems. The stupidity of hundreds of people sitting there passing wine and crackers silently has never been more clear to me. They say we are respectful observers! What exactly are we observing when no one partakes? Its like sitting in a movie theater and silently observing a blank screen (which I would have rather done BTW). They go on about how Jesus commanded the observance, but in reality he commanded ALL to partake, otherwise "you have no life in you". But of course the bible dosent mean what it says when the GB say it dosent. They fulfill Matthew 23:13 "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to".

I anxiously await your questions and comments.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:27 pm 
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they invited the public for a special bible discourse @ end of april, at same hall....i'm going g:)

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THIS, is the exact opposite of last night...this photo is from cornelius' iphone collection, which is public in google g:) :



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"she's birdfood!!! praise JAW!!!" ::)) ::))

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